I want my engine to crawl me up a cliff face at idle

Well you aint getting that.

Hell the old raptor couldnt do that

Even ignoring the exaggeration

Not exactly an exaggeration, more like 45` rocky slope

I mean the ecoboost is torquey af.

510lb ft at, what 2000rpm.

And something like 70% of that arrives at 1500rpm

Gimme dat shit at *500*

Sure.

Just find a truck with a 10.0L

Big 'ol Cadillac 500CI with an RV cam in 'er

I mean shit, the 6.2 raptor made _maybe_ 250lbs at 2000rpm

Okay too pessimistic

Probably like 320

For torque, the turbo is an improvement

I really think they need to make the raptor a diesel tho.

Gimme a 400hp, 700lb ft 6.0 twin turbodiesel v8 and i'm good

Would beat na gasser torque any day

oh, yeah no doubt

That's what's in your Cruze right?

400 lb/ft of torque from 1150rpm

http://www.duramaxhub.com/gas/gm-8.1-vortec-l18.html

pathetic

the mp10 beats it

Yeah, but I can get a Vortec 8.1 for $500

@LOGiK point of the 8.1 wasnt purely tirque. It was tirque and cist effectiveness

I'm assuming here but if they're that cheap it suggests there's some issue with their application

Fucking touchscreen

Or it suggests they made a ton and they are easy to maintain/fix

@LOGiK Nah, most people just want the 6.2, and their application was limited to RVs mostly, which get junked all the time

They did have it in the 2500 for a bit tho

The silverado

It was an obscure option that wasn't necessary for most folks. It was the gas alternative to the Duramax

About the same time the 8.0 v10 was a thing for ramiirc

Yep. All gas alternatives. Same price as the diesel options

Or was it 8.3?

Thing is, at that point the diesel is the better option.

Right lol which is why they weren't popular

Is a shame. Those big gassers are neat

Especially the ram v10.

Did ford have a big gasser equivalent? @Fitzydog