Message from @Kunarian

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2018-01-13 07:16:50 UTC  

what about the fact the communism is wide spread in Asia while orginating from eroupe.

2018-01-13 07:17:25 UTC  

it did not originate from Europeans.

2018-01-13 07:17:32 UTC  

It did

2018-01-13 07:17:33 UTC  

marxs?

2018-01-13 07:17:37 UTC  

but that's a side point

2018-01-13 07:17:52 UTC  

Marx was Jewish

2018-01-13 07:17:57 UTC  

wew

2018-01-13 07:17:58 UTC  

lad

2018-01-13 07:18:21 UTC  

but did the jews not inhrate a lot of europen genes by being there for a longtime.

2018-01-13 07:18:40 UTC  

The Ashkenazi Jews kept to themselves mostly

2018-01-13 07:18:59 UTC  

within other societies

2018-01-13 07:19:09 UTC  

to preserve their ethnicity and culture

2018-01-13 07:19:24 UTC  

k

2018-01-13 07:19:31 UTC  

leaving that point asside

2018-01-13 07:22:08 UTC  

Why did western Europe develop into the "western world " while eastern Europe fall behind following the black plague?

2018-01-13 07:22:45 UTC  

long story

2018-01-13 07:22:47 UTC  

@Apotheosis Still another race being able to set the princibles of another, showing how confinding to your race is ilogical to spread your princibles.

2018-01-13 07:22:53 UTC  

if I had to guess, one big factor is tech advancement

2018-01-13 07:23:04 UTC  

no

2018-01-13 07:23:13 UTC  

yes china had all of it too, but they didn't need to learn to use it, develop it, and exploit it as much as we did

2018-01-13 07:23:17 UTC  

It can be greatly simplified

2018-01-13 07:23:24 UTC  

the big thing was losing the thirty years war

2018-01-13 07:23:30 UTC  

Not really

2018-01-13 07:23:35 UTC  

and not forming unified states

2018-01-13 07:23:42 UTC  

for a long time

2018-01-13 07:23:46 UTC  

because europe was at war all the damn time, there was a constant armsrace in every category

2018-01-13 07:23:55 UTC  

I say geography played a big role in who won

2018-01-13 07:24:19 UTC  

The problem after the black plague was the labour shortage

2018-01-13 07:24:40 UTC  

The reaction to this one issue caused a difference in the future development of Europe

2018-01-13 07:26:00 UTC  

I vaguely recall the labor shortage

2018-01-13 07:26:08 UTC  

how did this affect things

2018-01-13 07:27:06 UTC  

In the east the more organised governments and more powerful lords meant that they simply forced peasants to work harder and longer and gave them less freedoms, creating serfdom
In the west the less organised governments and less powerful lords meant that they couldn't do that, so they had to relax a bit and adapt more to how the peasants were exploiting their new found power

2018-01-13 07:27:37 UTC  

And serfdom is a massive reason why the east just never had a chance against western europe

2018-01-13 07:27:56 UTC  

They held themselves back

2018-01-13 07:29:22 UTC  

I mean... feudalism was still in effect in France and Britain after the plague, wasn't it?

2018-01-13 07:29:36 UTC  

Oh yeah

2018-01-13 07:29:44 UTC  

Look east europe is flat, easy to invade. West eroupe has more mountans, to hide in, and there is the british isles, u need boats to invade.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/401638937606619136/9k.png

2018-01-13 07:29:45 UTC  

You don't change an entire system overnight

2018-01-13 07:30:16 UTC  

@zoopokemon kind of, except that big flat bit has a bitch of a winter

2018-01-13 07:30:23 UTC  

well... Britain and France took different paths

2018-01-13 07:30:28 UTC  

Always ends in a russian winter, as they say