Message from @Coltwind

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2019-01-23 05:16:44 UTC  

To be fair, the Ottoman Empire did stabilise the region and it is somewhat fair that they have that as consolation for being split up by the Allies.

2019-01-23 05:18:34 UTC  

BUT

2019-01-23 05:18:47 UTC  

They did also wage a genocidal campaign against the Armenians.

2019-01-23 05:25:35 UTC  

Like they have no claim over Anatolia.

2019-01-23 05:34:16 UTC  

Legally speaking, technically.

2019-01-23 05:34:27 UTC  

But then there's the other side of that coin.

2019-01-23 05:34:53 UTC  

They have a long-established ethnic and administrative presence there, so Anatolia isn't quite black and white.

2019-01-23 05:35:05 UTC  

Culturally, it is *very* Turkish.

2019-01-23 05:36:30 UTC  

I mean, that was established by killing the people that wouldn't assimilate, though.

2019-01-23 05:37:12 UTC  

That's true.

2019-01-23 05:37:14 UTC  

But like

2019-01-23 05:37:39 UTC  

Can you redraw the borders of the Middle East now differently from the Sykes-Picot Agreement?

2019-01-23 05:37:44 UTC  

No, it's too long-standing.

2019-01-23 05:37:58 UTC  

It wouldn't be practical.

2019-01-23 05:38:13 UTC  

With Cyprus, the vast majority are Greek Cypriots.

2019-01-23 05:38:20 UTC  

The government is formerly Greek.

2019-01-23 05:38:25 UTC  

And Turkey invaded unlawfully.

2019-01-23 05:41:01 UTC  

isn't there still demilitarized zones in Cyprus?

2019-01-23 05:41:37 UTC  

there is

2019-01-23 05:45:09 UTC  

Yes.

2019-01-23 05:45:38 UTC  

The Turks invaded a part of Cyprus with no legal basis of justification.

2019-01-23 05:45:42 UTC  

*or

2019-01-23 05:49:27 UTC  

Yeah I remember watching a documentary on it awhile back on YouTube. It's been happening since like the 60's or 70's. Cyprus used to be a popular celebrity vacation spot back in the 60's until war broke out. Why did the Turks invade? They claim it's their land or something?

2019-01-23 05:50:18 UTC  

They do.

2019-01-23 05:51:19 UTC  

The Turks are basically using WWII Germany logic and saying “we have an ethnic minority here therefore we should unite our ethnic peoples”

2019-01-23 05:52:20 UTC  

Which is retarded because when they invaded only 17% of the population were ethnically Turkish

2019-01-23 05:54:58 UTC  

Even right now, there are roughly 650000 Greek Cypriots to Turkish Cypriots.

2019-01-23 05:55:06 UTC  

*150000

2019-01-23 05:56:03 UTC  

Lol that's fuckin' nuts. I know blacks aren't African, but that is like Africa invading the US because 13% of the population is black.

2019-01-23 05:56:31 UTC  

That's also why they've been deploying troops into northern Syria, since there's an ethnic minority of Turkic tribesmen there.

2019-01-23 05:56:45 UTC  

They were likely hoping Syria would collapse entirely so they could annex it.

2019-01-23 05:57:17 UTC  

The Turks aren’t to be trusted

2019-01-23 05:57:43 UTC  

And then they wonder why Christians were fighting the Crusades

2019-01-23 05:58:29 UTC  

Honestly, giving Cyprus to Greece would be better for everyone because Greece’s economy can be revitalised and everyone in Europe can benefit from Greece.

2019-01-23 06:21:06 UTC  

Yeah Cyprus has a lot of tourism potential, which could help with it's prolonged debt crisis

2019-01-23 06:21:36 UTC  

Exactly

2019-01-23 06:22:39 UTC  

Cyprus could be great but it cannot sustain itself as an independent state, nor can it sustain itself under the control of globalist Greece.

2019-01-23 06:23:27 UTC  

But tbh Turkey is by far the worst option geopolitically speaking because the Turks are just gonna use the oil money to fuck everyone over.

2019-01-23 06:54:56 UTC  
2019-01-23 06:56:20 UTC  

Look at the spending, debt, and GDP as base metrics

2019-01-23 06:56:29 UTC  

Like macroeconomically speaking