Even though the NATO defense secretary is European

Or Romania?

the EU army is a joke. it only there to supress the EU nations

he is from norway

The EU army would only care if the russians were at the oder

No they wouldnt

the EU army will roll out the red carpet then

They didnt care when they were

Once the USSR collapsed the entire continent decided military wasn't worth it.

Which is fine

@Jym The EU or EEC at the time was never a military body, it is and was an economic and political body so it could not enforce anything through war. That is where NATO stepped in

What we are saying, is that NATO may as well not exist.

the Nato defence secretary was hard on that the European leaders are weak idiots that need to step up or loose the support of the US as trump was not joking.

@Capitán Alatriste

NATO s a polite euphemism Europe uses for US troops.

And if NATO were all you needed, the EU wouldn't be trying to literally create a military.

We hate our allies because they are not allies when they think they don't need us

I mean someone mentioned Ukraine. Who's giving them support? Poland is. The US. And no shit Canada. Think about that. Justine Trudeau has more sack than most European leaders.

EU army is not for defending invading armies it for supress the people of EU when the shit finally hits the fan

When the US threatens to shut down NATO, well we got to have something then

We cannot shut down NATO

Well get out of it

It will exist even if we withdraw.

We wouldn't want to pull put if you pulled your weight and at least pretended to take military seriously. Do you know how long it takes to build up a military industry?
DECADES

How long do you think the Russians, Chinese, Koreans, whoever, will give you to start making replacement parts again?

We will get murdered while you avoid the frontlines like you did in the Gulf War

We resent you immensely

A large number of Americans frankly see you as enemies

And it is getting worse

But rather than try and fix relations we get mocked

See I respect France. Its people fight, even when it means permanent injury and disability. I respect the UK becausennthey fought WITH us, not behind us.

at lest some do try and keep the relationships in order
https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/to-say-it-like-it-is-norways-evaluation-of-its-part-in-the-international-intervention/

I resent the rest because they were more worried about how they looked too SCARY if they wore helmets in battlezones, so they couldn't go to the front line.

Denmark especially on that point

so a bunch of pogs

Im not even joking

and then the Norwegian rangers was hunting Taliban's without any helmets as they was going to give them away

Imagine one of them getting sniped. Our forces would be put at risk to assist.

All because helmets are too scary and millitary like

Too aggressive

Now when we complain about all this, our 'ALLIES' say they need an army to defend AGAINST us.

So damn right we want to pull out