Or with European for that matter @Fitzydog

they need to stand united

It's not a numbers game dude

It's a culture thing

i know

No, you don't lol

that is why i think a federation at this time is not possible

Europe have over 3000 years of history, that is not something that goes away easy

@desert hamster There is a closer culture between Califorinia and New York, than France and Germany.

hmm

what about between rural montana and new york? 😃

Yes, still closer

Hell there is a closer culture between all 50 states (Except maybe Hawaii) than European nations

yes, i know there is

even Scandinavia is hard to unite and we have practically the same culture in all the nations

that is why eu should have stayed a trade union

until the time people felt a sense of belonging

in 50-100-200 years

@desert hamster So you right now are suggesting that all the cultural history of European countries should be erased, to suit YOUR vision for a unified powerhouse

The other backstop is in the US federalization certain powers were always reserved for the state. While the EU doesn't have such a backstop.

no

but the EU was never made to be a trade union but to make the united states of Europe from the start

not erased

That's the outcome of your solution

The EU was more to form the older idea of League of Nations, rather than a United States of Europe

but unless you don't erase it. you will never get a Italian and a French to truly work together or a German and a Spaniard

Why should they?

Fuck France

🤢

See?

europe needs to stick together

Hell try getting the UK to be closer to any mainland nation.

@desert hamsterWhy??

on que the spaghetti champion shows up to prove our point

since some people on the other side of the mediteranian stick together

And then you have the communist Portugese

I could see Europe working togheder under a new Roman empire tho...

Who is the heretic that pinged me reeee

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Be gone, J00!!

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