They will call all of you terrorists, and they aren't strictly wrong. But that doesn't make you wrong, either.

yeah but surely the circle needs to expand, not just encourage other existing folks on this side of the proverbial fence.

I would be HAPPY to die for my country. For liberty. If your fellows aren't, then you have no hope, and should just sign your destiny away.

Do you really believe that you still have the luxury of conversation?

Not a luxury, a tool

Let those unable to fight, talk. Those who can fight, should fight.

Look at the American Revolution.

We did not invade Britain and kill King George.

We just showed him that to govern us, he must cut his own hand off.

You have to make victory for the opposition too costly. The only thing you have to lose, in all honesty, is everything.

There's one thing to put your own life on the line. Different when it becomes families and friends.

It is all at stake. If you light yourself on fire, who is willing to try and tell you that you're wrong? They will be forced to negotiate.

Do you love your friends and family? Do you want them to have rights?

People will make their choices.

You do not have to make them do anything. They can sit it out, most will. But what will YOUR choice be?

This is one of the central failings of the EU. Our forefathers pledged their 'Life and Sacred Honor' to their union. What brand of malcontent would so devote themselves to Brussels?

A Belgian maybe?

And honestly you can do nothing, that is a legitimate option. To just say you resist and do nothing else. Or make an excuse and claim that it's too far to claim your goal.

Hmm let me think of the great Belgian military victories. I'm drawing a blank. Maybe I should drink more?

You can do all that. Slaves have done so for all of human history.

I get it. I can man up or I can be a coward. The point of discussion I thought was about tactics. Which as the username should indicate, I'm far from an expert in.

@Jym what about the exploitation of the Congo?

@galesteppes

Leopold bought it. I mean fighting people who hadn't invented the wheel with firearms is not terribly difficult.

Tactics, huh? Well, first, you need to make sure that you can prepare. Get you some weapons. A hardware store is your friend. The human skull breaks with surprising ease when using a penetrating point.

This is why helmets are the first piece of armor you should ever invest in.

Err. I'man American and we do things weird. Have you considered throwing a lot of tea into a harbor and just shooting Germans until they give up?

If you do not want to kill anyone, then threaten self harm in a very public place, preferrably a government area.

A gas mask, airtight goggles, and a welding helmet will help minimize the effect of nonlethal weapons.

Or I mean like three votes was the margin on no-deal. You could fix that in an ellection....

@galesteppes I'm starting to understand this channel

No you can't, the vote was made.

Anyway, attract as much attention to yourself as possible. Wear bright colors. Hell. Set yourself on fire in a central location once news cameras turn up.

by the time it an election the damage is done long time ago

Your elections do not work anyway.

I kinda feel like there are steps to try before setting myself on fire.

And it's not like there is a valid deal on the table. Hell if the EU can't pass an extension pretty sure article 50 is already in motion. Short of a revocation that's a de-facto Hard Brexit.

And it's a one-shot trick

Or, and I mean we had a lot of success with this. Throwing tea into a harbor. It's how civilized people do these things.

Okay pussy, try cargo terminals

Sabotage trade

It is why we dumped tea into the harbor. That was a fuckton of money