Message from @Fitzydog

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2019-02-06 22:53:50 UTC  

Ahh, yeah, the software and tech was done locally, by their equivalent of Raytheon or whatever

2019-02-06 22:54:29 UTC  

Gonna go look and see if there is a price tag floating around

2019-02-06 22:57:02 UTC  

2010 - $205 million approved for by the US House of reps 410-4

2019-02-06 22:57:54 UTC  

2012 - another $680 million authorised

2019-02-06 22:58:37 UTC  

Ya know.... if we're getting free access to the tech inside, then this isn't a bad deal

2019-02-06 22:59:07 UTC  

For less than 1bil, we essentially outsourced the R&D, and testing to Isreal

2019-02-06 23:00:33 UTC  

That billion was spent without rights to the tech

2019-02-06 23:00:40 UTC  

The US is now gonna buy the rights

2019-02-06 23:00:56 UTC  

Are we buying the rights? Or are we buying a single unit?

2019-02-06 23:01:22 UTC  

I don't have access to the contract unfortunately, read the article

2019-02-06 23:02:06 UTC  

The IP rights seemingly

2019-02-06 23:02:35 UTC  

From the article, it seems they get full access to the inner workings

2019-02-06 23:02:47 UTC  

And a unit

2019-02-06 23:03:55 UTC  

If you were to treat Israel as a defense contractor, this is completely normal for the DoD

2019-02-06 23:04:11 UTC  

A unit costs 50 mil

2019-02-06 23:04:24 UTC  

And we don't know the price anyway so not much of an argument to be had

2019-02-06 23:04:27 UTC  

We subsidize it's creation, and then we become a customer

2019-02-06 23:04:52 UTC  

I'm just pointing out it's hilarious the US seemingly paid the lion's share in production and development and didn't even secure equal rights

2019-02-06 23:05:02 UTC  

Despite military personnel at the time pointing that out

2019-02-06 23:05:09 UTC  

You're assuming we don't have rights

2019-02-06 23:05:51 UTC  

Well what are you paying for

2019-02-06 23:05:55 UTC  

Exclusive rights?

2019-02-06 23:06:04 UTC  

Don't think so given they are the ones who use it the most

2019-02-06 23:06:41 UTC  

It's not like we can expect them to ship us a full defense system free of charge

2019-02-06 23:06:54 UTC  

Lmao, you invested over a billion

2019-02-06 23:07:01 UTC  

A unit is worth 50 mil

2019-02-06 23:07:01 UTC  

The components themselves still cost money

2019-02-06 23:07:15 UTC  

The components are made by US companies

2019-02-06 23:07:23 UTC  

R&D is what is costly in most cases

2019-02-06 23:08:00 UTC  

If it's only 50mil, the yeah, it seems we already have open access to the tech, we're just actually paying for the equipment

2019-02-06 23:08:06 UTC  

"We will invest nearly $1 billion on this. This is the goal, in addition to the $205 million that the U.S. government has authorized," Shani said.

2019-02-06 23:08:26 UTC  

An Israeli defense general said that

2019-02-06 23:08:34 UTC  

But then the US just ponied up the billion

2019-02-06 23:08:48 UTC  

Yeah that I can agree with

2019-02-06 23:09:07 UTC  

If they are buying a unit, it's less ridiculous but if it's the rights it's comical

2019-02-06 23:09:15 UTC  

Like, you realize a SINGLE F-22 costs $340million, right?

2019-02-06 23:09:29 UTC  

Yeah, and?

2019-02-06 23:09:35 UTC  

Apples and oranges

2019-02-06 23:09:39 UTC  

Not really

2019-02-06 23:10:12 UTC  

We know the cost of a unit, so yeah it's irrelevant what a jet costs