Message from @snake

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2020-01-26 04:57:20 UTC  

That's a weak take, Snake. Diplomacy is diplomacy, and clearly hardline Republicans suck at that

2020-01-26 05:04:24 UTC  

Well the War hawks would have us invade, that I’m against

2020-01-26 05:04:34 UTC  

I don’t want a out right war with Iran

2020-01-26 05:05:10 UTC  

But I completely stand by what I said, you can put 1 million reactions on my commentary, but that doesn’t actually explain anything.

2020-01-26 05:07:38 UTC  

The principle is that if we’re going to stick around and *not* leave, we might as well as get them to bow down to us.

2020-01-26 05:08:13 UTC  

Because again, if we for whatever reason stick around, at least try making Iran stop making moves.

2020-01-26 05:09:26 UTC  

We shouldn’t fight to have equal or fair, we should fight to have better.

2020-01-26 05:09:38 UTC  

Any reasonable nation will agree

2020-01-26 05:10:53 UTC  

But it's not like we can stop them from making moves

2020-01-26 05:11:56 UTC  

the point of negotiations is to come out of that spat in good terms

2020-01-26 05:12:04 UTC  

avoiding near conflicts

2020-01-26 05:12:06 UTC  

Well that’s the point of negotiating, is to try and get that objective. If we give them some lee way they might strike a deal, or maybe if we’re hardass then allow some things to slide

2020-01-26 05:12:30 UTC  

But still you should always try to get a better deal

2020-01-26 05:13:10 UTC  

Giving them leeway to negotiate back and forth, which can't happen if we're acting in bad faith

2020-01-26 05:13:47 UTC  

Uh sure it can, we could easily tell them to do something in return of this other thing, and then fuck them over

2020-01-26 05:14:04 UTC  

no it really can't

2020-01-26 05:14:33 UTC  

Iran is already distrustful of our govt

2020-01-26 05:14:41 UTC  

But even if you can’t have both, we have infinite power compared to them so we can choose

2020-01-26 05:14:53 UTC  

Ok and? Who fucking cares about how Iran feels ?

2020-01-26 05:14:57 UTC  

we're not gonna be able to trick'em

2020-01-26 05:15:44 UTC  

Really what I’m saying is that we have the guns, we can order them around, and they know it. So why not use that advantage?

2020-01-26 05:15:56 UTC  

yeah no, that's not how it works

2020-01-26 05:16:07 UTC  

us having power doesn't matter

2020-01-26 05:16:26 UTC  

and if anything it would only make us seem arrogant and/or evil as fuck

2020-01-26 05:16:30 UTC  

That’s exactly how this works, three frigates and one sortie I could have the US military make Iran get on her knees.

2020-01-26 05:16:50 UTC  

yeah no

2020-01-26 05:16:55 UTC  

that's not good enough

2020-01-26 05:17:13 UTC  

Yes it is. Their analysts say so

2020-01-26 05:17:15 UTC  

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2020-01-26 05:17:25 UTC  

three ships ain't shit

2020-01-26 05:18:02 UTC  

Because they have one specific island where 85% of their oil and gas goes through. That’s where the one sortie comes in. And three frigates too close and block off the Persian gulf, cutting off their oil exports

2020-01-26 05:18:12 UTC  

We’re oil and natural gas independent

2020-01-26 05:18:23 UTC  

So we don’t need any resources coming through

2020-01-26 05:18:40 UTC  

more like three ships get swarmed with attack boats and missile strikes

2020-01-26 05:18:46 UTC  

Bruh

2020-01-26 05:18:55 UTC  

I’m not putting them inside the Persian gulf

2020-01-26 05:19:04 UTC  

I don’t need too

2020-01-26 05:19:20 UTC  

and yet you'll be putting them in missile attack range

2020-01-26 05:19:27 UTC  

No I won’t

2020-01-26 05:19:31 UTC  

yes it would

2020-01-26 05:19:36 UTC  

Well sure a few missiles