Message from @Chawosaurian

Discord ID: 650436440458526759


2019-11-30 20:34:42 UTC  

no principles at all other than "fairness"

2019-11-30 20:35:13 UTC  

see, I don't agree with the white nationalist view that civilisation is an outcome of group genetics I think circumstance and coincidences can have extremely massive effects on the outcome of a given civilisation and I would take north korea and south korea as examlles. Are they really so different genetically?

2019-11-30 20:35:45 UTC  

they might be more different than most of us would assume

2019-11-30 20:35:48 UTC  

It must also be understood that with the collapse of Equality, all the -isms, -phobes and -ions such as racism,sexism,ableism,homophobe,transphobe,xenophobe,discrimination,segregation lose their negative moral value and become at a minimum neutral.

2019-11-30 20:36:05 UTC  

but we don't know, because there's really no nork dna data available

2019-11-30 20:36:34 UTC  

and that is why multiculturalism is good political business @Chawosaurian

2019-11-30 20:37:07 UTC  

I strongly doubt the division of north and south korea could be traced to genetics

2019-11-30 20:37:31 UTC  

they have nothing else to offer humanity. they'd be rendered into less useful in a heterogeneous society

2019-11-30 20:37:55 UTC  

Multiculturalism follows Democracy, and Democracy follows Equality

2019-11-30 20:39:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415084101435423/650435740823715855/udjm4blzti121.png

2019-11-30 20:39:28 UTC  

this was what, 5000 years ago? nothing has changed

2019-11-30 20:39:37 UTC  

@Chawosaurian I think you could argue that in an unequal society its still improper to be hateful towards others. If you see someone in a wheelchair and you knock them over you're still an asshole even if we agree that being in a wheelchair is not prefarable.

2019-11-30 20:39:42 UTC  

he nailed it 5000 years ago

2019-11-30 20:39:55 UTC  

damn

2019-11-30 20:39:57 UTC  

nothing to improve upon

2019-11-30 20:40:23 UTC  

@Boniface The lack of equality and the collapse of all the -isms and -phobes does not mean aggression becomes neutral or positive as well.

2019-11-30 20:40:24 UTC  

aristotle, being a bedrock thinker of western civ, we;ve known this for 5 millenia

2019-11-30 20:41:03 UTC  

but all of a sudden, something changed in our western thinking ✡️

2019-11-30 20:41:25 UTC  

Aggression has nothing to do with Equality, and its an Equalitarian myth that without all being considered equal, those on the lower end suddenly become justified targets of aggression.

2019-11-30 20:41:44 UTC  

I don't see how the isms would collapse though. If someone yells they hate nibbas and shoots up a black church ppl will ssy thats racist even if they accept ppl are not equal

2019-11-30 20:42:11 UTC  

They collapse in that its not a negative moral thing any longer.

2019-11-30 20:42:12 UTC  

our great grandfathers understood what aristotle was saying. the most uneducated peasant understood too. now we have men in dresses telling us "lol, no!"

2019-11-30 20:42:21 UTC  

And again, conflating no equality with aggression.

2019-11-30 20:42:37 UTC  

Equality is not what deters aggression or makes it have a negative moral value.

2019-11-30 20:43:26 UTC  

yeah but I don't think ppl consider hatred of others to be bad just because we are equal

2019-11-30 20:43:37 UTC  

It would be neutral.

2019-11-30 20:43:48 UTC  

Just as hating certain food is neutral.

2019-11-30 20:43:48 UTC  

why

2019-11-30 20:43:59 UTC  

Because it becomes a preference.

2019-11-30 20:44:02 UTC  

And nothing more

2019-11-30 20:45:03 UTC  

I think most of the time if someone gets called out for racism its for acting on it

2019-11-30 20:45:25 UTC  

its not just a private thought

2019-11-30 20:46:03 UTC  

What action

2019-11-30 20:46:24 UTC  

Under Equality the private thoughts are also morally negative.

2019-11-30 20:46:31 UTC  

lets say you're a landlord and you decide to kick all your black tenants out, because its your preference

2019-11-30 20:46:31 UTC  

But yes what action exactly.

2019-11-30 20:46:43 UTC  

ppl will still say thats racist

2019-11-30 20:46:51 UTC  

And without Equality, doesn't matter

2019-11-30 20:47:27 UTC  

Would people even care at that point

2019-11-30 20:47:53 UTC  

because it has nothing to do with equality

2019-11-30 20:48:10 UTC  

its about tolerance of difference