Message from @Banjod

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2019-12-18 14:32:27 UTC  

The desire to roll it came from genes.

2019-12-18 14:32:59 UTC  

The design of the dice was made by humans with genes.

2019-12-18 14:33:18 UTC  

Even the surface it landed on was likely created by humans created from genes.

2019-12-18 14:33:31 UTC  

But this explanation has almost no use whatsoever.

2019-12-18 14:34:33 UTC  

Learning the cause or the origin of something doesn't necessarily lead to a fundamental understanding of it or any useful knowledge about it.

2019-12-18 14:35:13 UTC  

It doesn't even say anything about the probability.

2019-12-18 14:37:26 UTC  

If you were a betting man, and you saw someone roll a 5, saying this person rolling a 5 was genetic (and it is) and therefore you bet this person will keep rolling a 5 as long as their genes are the same you will lose a lot of money because something being genetic doesn't mean you know the outcome even if the genes are the same.

2019-12-18 16:33:16 UTC  

I will take this silence as inability to refute. 😁 πŸ‘

2019-12-18 18:13:13 UTC  

culture and genes are highly interconnected

2019-12-18 18:14:44 UTC  

also why the fuck are you saying "hurr durr no one can refute my arguments". No one is obliged to refute your dumb arguments.

2019-12-18 18:17:33 UTC  

the problem is it's _not_ a roll of dice

2019-12-18 18:18:57 UTC  

how many tries will sub saharans need to have to make a chinese civilization?

2019-12-18 18:19:09 UTC  

indefinite, until their genes change

2019-12-18 18:20:03 UTC  

Displaced ethnicities create similar cultures where ever you put them. For examples, Haiti and the other afro carribeans make typically African societies. The white South African settlers created highly productive and advanced societies just like in Europe, and just like in North America and Australia

2019-12-18 18:20:32 UTC  

the problem with that argument is the continuation of culture

2019-12-18 18:20:37 UTC  

it's not fair

2019-12-18 18:20:52 UTC  

True, it is transplanting of culture

2019-12-18 18:23:51 UTC  

How would you create an experiment around this? Culture is incredibly heritable whether it's genes or not.

2019-12-18 18:25:04 UTC  

you can't

2019-12-18 18:25:08 UTC  

but you don't need to either

2019-12-18 18:25:08 UTC  

lol

2019-12-18 18:25:22 UTC  

if these people bring tha twith you

2019-12-18 18:25:25 UTC  

with them*

2019-12-18 18:25:31 UTC  

then why would you want that..

2019-12-18 18:26:29 UTC  

Lmao

2019-12-18 18:26:35 UTC  

show me the country built by these people that you want to move to

2019-12-18 18:27:17 UTC  

obviously it's genes

2019-12-18 18:27:28 UTC  

but it IS also the environment

2019-12-18 18:28:13 UTC  

I am confused how the mechanics work tho, I know it’s genes, but do the genes merely produce character and personality traits, attributes and preferences that make people build societies a certain way?

2019-12-18 18:29:19 UTC  

I don't know what you're asking

2019-12-18 18:29:30 UTC  

@Boniface The point of understanding the root of all human conduct, behavior, cultural, social and all things related too genetics is to come to a complete and full view of the human being as a multi layered and complex being that has it's complete emergence from the basis of his DNA from 2 shared parents. You can never understand what humans are, what humans do, and why humans do until you understand this fact. Then from here you can explain why certain actions, tendencies and even oddities or counter intuitive behaviors arise in man.

Idea's such as tabla rasa have done a great deal of damage given the false view of humans it purports. Leftism for example is a rotten apple born from the tree of this manner of thinking. They did not know man as he truly is and upon this hypothesis much speculation was had, and upon much speculation many ideas and remedies were born, and among these come the kind that have given birth to the end of western civilization and who knows where it will end. Possibly extinction.

2019-12-18 18:29:57 UTC  

Genes make people do things, but how? Does it make them think certain thoughts?

2019-12-18 18:30:07 UTC  

And change their emotions to those thoughts?

2019-12-18 18:30:14 UTC  

if you put the greeks (todays, or ancient) into scandinavia and the scandinavians in greece, they will change behavior

2019-12-18 18:30:14 UTC  

make entails no choice

2019-12-18 18:30:21 UTC  

I disagree with that

2019-12-18 18:30:44 UTC  

yes environment plus genes= likely reaction

2019-12-18 18:30:54 UTC  

but not certain

2019-12-18 18:31:27 UTC  

it's a degree of what can I do, what are others doing that change what I do, how fast do things degrade, how much free time do I have, etc.

2019-12-18 18:31:58 UTC  

it's too complex I think

2019-12-18 18:32:02 UTC  

to answer like that