Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-10-23 14:02:58 UTC  

family unit yes

2019-10-23 14:03:02 UTC  

"evolutionary behavior" is not at all clear

2019-10-23 14:03:02 UTC  

but how large of a family unit

2019-10-23 14:03:05 UTC  

The average life span wasn't that high even lol

2019-10-23 14:03:10 UTC  

one brother stayed in the original territory

2019-10-23 14:03:19 UTC  

Usually was not the case

2019-10-23 14:03:24 UTC  

life span stats are misleading, they include a lot of infant and childhood mortality

2019-10-23 14:03:24 UTC  

especially when you drastically cahnged the environment, then "evolutionary behavior" doesn't help much to predict what happens

2019-10-23 14:03:24 UTC  

well you mean amalgamation of families basicaly handrubbing,yeah for sure

2019-10-23 14:03:31 UTC  

we need a Chinese/Japanese clan system

2019-10-23 14:03:39 UTC  

if you made it to 22 you would be likely to live quite a long time

2019-10-23 14:03:43 UTC  

My entire family spent the last thousand years of their history living on just three islands

2019-10-23 14:03:50 UTC  

what may have evolved will no longer be beneficial in a drastically different environment

2019-10-23 14:03:52 UTC  

you're in the East, aren't you?

2019-10-23 14:03:55 UTC  

cuck island?

2019-10-23 14:03:58 UTC  

We have been a colonial family for about six centuries

2019-10-23 14:03:59 UTC  

😉

2019-10-23 14:04:11 UTC  

Only the second most recent generation of my family left the rest and only within the last few decades

2019-10-23 14:04:23 UTC  

none of this refutes what I'm saying

2019-10-23 14:04:38 UTC  

yes "absolute nuclear family" has only been possible post ww2 or so

2019-10-23 14:04:46 UTC  

old people were not moving west, and at least one brother stayed behind on the original land

2019-10-23 14:04:46 UTC  

so people may actually have evolved in UK to get as away from family as possible for some reason, but because of economics they could not until recently, then when it became possible, the families fell apart

2019-10-23 14:04:50 UTC  

or certainly post urbanisation/ind rev

2019-10-23 14:04:59 UTC  

It does, when you there are labour and resource shortages, people don't split up and head into unknown territory full of hostile foreigners, they stick together

2019-10-23 14:05:00 UTC  

colonization ***did*** drive the Nuclear family for a long time

2019-10-23 14:05:09 UTC  

but they literally did though

2019-10-23 14:05:21 UTC  

This whole 'moving west' thing just applies to the U.S. out of dozens of colonial countries and also disregards entirely who exactly 'moved west'

2019-10-23 14:05:42 UTC  

it doesn't just apply to the US, it happened in Canada as well, the east was settled first

2019-10-23 14:05:55 UTC  

you cant have children without extended family support

2019-10-23 14:06:00 UTC  

there is reason to believe that having excessively tight families was so economically detrimental in the last thousand years in northern europe that it would have reduced birth rates

2019-10-23 14:06:10 UTC  

Yes, but the family units of eastern Canada didn't split up to populate the west, most of the families that peopled the land were new migrants from the UK

2019-10-23 14:06:13 UTC  

those willing to break family ties could have more kids by finding better opportunities

2019-10-23 14:06:28 UTC  

then, when it became much easier to separate, the families fell apart

2019-10-23 14:06:29 UTC  

Migrants that came with their entire families

2019-10-23 14:06:35 UTC  

For the most part

2019-10-23 14:07:03 UTC  

'economically detrimental' *rub hands*

2019-10-23 14:07:14 UTC  

no, it means that if you stayed in a multigenerational household like in southern europe, you could not have as many kids as if you moved to a new house

2019-10-23 14:07:22 UTC  

i am not saying anything is good or bad today

2019-10-23 14:07:25 UTC  

The impetus for the splitting of the extended family unit was urbanisation, not colonialism, it was the movement from the farm to the city

2019-10-23 14:07:30 UTC  

but plenty has been written about this

2019-10-23 14:07:39 UTC  

Young libtards abandoning the agrarian life for the convenience of cities