Message from @Banjod

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2019-10-30 07:20:44 UTC  

they don't have to be geneti

2019-10-30 07:20:44 UTC  

c

2019-10-30 07:20:46 UTC  

they are what they are

2019-10-30 07:20:52 UTC  

I'll take a look at this next one

2019-10-30 07:20:54 UTC  

@Banjod, I can only follow so many threads at once.

2019-10-30 07:20:57 UTC  

and it's genes and environment

2019-10-30 07:21:03 UTC  
2019-10-30 07:21:11 UTC  

It debunks one type of twin study

2019-10-30 07:22:16 UTC  

no it doesn't, it relates to the composition of shared vs unshared environmental effects, its independent of the effects of genes, which is what heritability estimates are based off of

2019-10-30 07:22:20 UTC  

Are two random families equal in intelligence? No.
Are genetic bottlenecks real? Yes
Were humans isolated from each other? Yes
Then groups exist.

2019-10-30 07:22:30 UTC  

the only thing it changes is how much is shared vs how much is unshared in some studies

2019-10-30 07:22:32 UTC  

groups in terms of intelligence

2019-10-30 07:22:36 UTC  

there is no way around this

2019-10-30 07:22:36 UTC  

not how much is genetic

2019-10-30 07:22:44 UTC  

`2.3: Behavioral Genetics Methods: A Conceptual Overview

2.3.1: The Basics
To understand these findings and how they can best be evaluated, some background is in order. Behavioral genetics research is distinguished by its reliance on information concerning the genetic and environmental similarity between pairs of (non)relatives to separate genetic and environmental factors influencing an outcome of interest. Although much research uses adoption designs (Loehlin, et al., 2007) as well as other approaches, the workhorse of behavioral genetics research is the twin decomposition model (Boomsma, et al., 2002, Bouchard and Propping, 1993, Martin, et al., 1997, Plomin, et al., 2001).`

2019-10-30 07:24:53 UTC  

this is another example of how groups change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P78Zd8265_k

2019-10-30 07:25:08 UTC  

even if civilization is what did it (which is absurd)

2019-10-30 07:25:12 UTC  

then there is still a difference

2019-10-30 07:25:13 UTC  

genetically

2019-10-30 07:25:30 UTC  

I already showed him that actually

2019-10-30 07:25:45 UTC  

yes, but he was in a discussion so he didn't watch

2019-10-30 07:26:49 UTC  

@Nerthulas, in order to determine the effects of genes, twin studies require the homogenizing assumption. How have you shown that they don't?

2019-10-30 07:27:06 UTC  

twins are alomost identical genetically

2019-10-30 07:27:09 UTC  

when adopted

2019-10-30 07:27:14 UTC  

they get treated differently

2019-10-30 07:27:20 UTC  

then they score about the same in iq tests

2019-10-30 07:27:22 UTC  

that's it

2019-10-30 07:27:29 UTC  

that shows its likely genetic

2019-10-30 07:27:33 UTC  

if it occurs over and over

2019-10-30 07:27:42 UTC  

there is no long speeches needed for this

2019-10-30 07:27:44 UTC  

it's right htere

2019-10-30 07:28:10 UTC  

adopted*

2019-10-30 07:28:22 UTC  

So it's 100% genetic and the Norwegians are truly superior to everyone else? 🤔

2019-10-30 07:28:33 UTC  

Yes. <:CHAD:396569198404435969>

2019-10-30 07:28:39 UTC  

We even replace ourselves successfully

2019-10-30 07:29:36 UTC  

Groypers, Assemble <:Smug_Pepe:638497141794537472>

2019-10-30 07:30:35 UTC  

The dancing israelis guy was the best lol

2019-10-30 07:31:04 UTC  

Patrick Casey cameo

2019-10-30 07:31:09 UTC  

The girl next to him was loving it and she doesn't even get it <:steflol:561214382181318656>

2019-10-30 07:31:26 UTC  

<:steflol:561214382181318656>