Message from @Nerthulas
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it doesn't budge is/ought
something being explained is not the same as something being justified
Well, if you don’t believe in moral realism, that would be the case.
Like I understand what you’re saying. I even recommended you a book on it. I disagree though.
well independently of what your position on moral realism vs non realism is, an explanation is not the same thing as a justification - that I can find an evolutionary basis for a behavior does not imply that that behavior is metaphysically good or whatever
there is no room for disagreement
lol
So you don’t think I can justify my position?
absolutely not 😂
frankly I like christians who claim revelation more than christians who engage in apologetics
I don’t know if this convo can move forward.
🤷🏻
Throw holy water on him
He will burn
anything you could do would be purely linguistic
a trick with definitions
@Nerthulas Is correct, Pathos exist, and Christianity already knew that.
@Nerthulas errrr no?
ok, give it to me then...
Well, I think morality is based off group strategy.
We can measure roughly success and judge that as moral or not.
speculating about what moral systems are the most evolutionarily advantageous, or what the evolutionary basis of moral systems are, is not a solution to is/ought, it does not even engage with it
So you think something needs to be GROUNDED to be objective?
idk exactly what you mean by grounded, but unless you solve is/ought, your preference is an animal preference caused by the series of events which led to your life, and is a natural phenomenon, not a metaphysical one
So, grounded is something enforcing or justifying it.
BASEDDDDDDD
Oml
me on a friday night ngl FABBBBBBBBBBBULOOOOOOOOUSSSSSSSSSSS
Btw
Thing is you can move past your own preference of course. I may perfer pizza, but its bad for me and so I don't eat it much. However if I never knew it was bad for me, my Pathos would obviously win out.
My heart started hurting after you posted that. 😭 I need to run more.
Has anyone pointed out to trad caths that Catholics worked with Jews to pass the 1965 immigration act? Now that they're so based all of a sudden
I fucking hate Catholics.
HEHEHEHE
Catholics have always been a force on the left in the US
by and large