Message from @Eternal Entropy

Discord ID: 643827367894319144


2019-11-12 14:57:02 UTC  

If Peter was the first pope, why was he an equal, and why did he not give the decision

2019-11-12 14:57:08 UTC  

why was there even a need for a council

2019-11-12 14:57:12 UTC  

if there was a pope

2019-11-12 14:57:29 UTC  

additionally, Peter also wrote in 1 Pet 5:1 "To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed.."

2019-11-12 14:57:47 UTC  

"as a fellow elder" now why did he not speak with authority but spoke to the others as equals?

2019-11-12 14:57:53 UTC  

peter is indeed the rock of the church

2019-11-12 14:57:58 UTC  

Official catholic doctrine calls Peter "First among equals"

2019-11-12 14:58:01 UTC  

this is affirmed

2019-11-12 14:58:06 UTC  

elder = apostles

2019-11-12 14:58:11 UTC  

The other patriarchs are equals too

2019-11-12 14:58:27 UTC  

in that case there soon wouldn't be any more elders among which he was equal

2019-11-12 14:58:28 UTC  

The Antioch Patriarch domain allows priest marriages, for example

2019-11-12 14:58:42 UTC  

That's not how the Catholic church views it. Papal infallibility does not state that any cardinal can correct a theological view of the Pope

2019-11-12 14:58:50 UTC  

but at no time did God decree that a man "the pope" would lead his church after peter and hear gods word and be infallible

2019-11-12 14:58:56 UTC  

this is all heresy

2019-11-12 14:58:59 UTC  

Not cardinal. Patriarchs

2019-11-12 14:59:15 UTC  

the orthodox remained true

2019-11-12 14:59:20 UTC  

So Patriarchs are all infallible?

2019-11-12 14:59:26 UTC  

Catholicism likely got a Guinnes book entry for being strawmanned

2019-11-12 14:59:31 UTC  

This is not Catholic dogma my guy

2019-11-12 15:00:06 UTC  

yet he claims this

2019-11-12 15:00:15 UTC  

Not infalible, but equals yes

2019-11-12 15:00:18 UTC  

Yep, when the pope speaks bs than it's francis bs, there are a lot of conditions to be met for it to be the popes bs

2019-11-12 15:00:19 UTC  

Or are they

2019-11-12 15:00:21 UTC  

I forgot

2019-11-12 15:00:29 UTC  

If they're equal why does the Pope have infallibility

2019-11-12 15:00:49 UTC  

I'm sorry dude but it really strikes me like you're just using Catholicism as a tool instead of having genuine belief

2019-11-12 15:00:51 UTC  

Look upon the historical actions of this pope

2019-11-12 15:01:03 UTC  

more proof need you not

2019-11-12 15:01:06 UTC  

The total us state budgets of possible states that could join right now is 731.7B

2019-11-12 15:01:13 UTC  

their actions are of pure evil

2019-11-12 15:01:17 UTC  

Multiply that by .03

2019-11-12 15:01:28 UTC  

and have created much travail in this world

2019-11-12 15:01:40 UTC  

Thats 22B

2019-11-12 15:01:42 UTC  

Because peter was first among them

2019-11-12 15:01:49 UTC  

His word carries more weight

2019-11-12 15:02:01 UTC  

Well evidently they didn't considering Paul literally corrected him

2019-11-12 15:02:07 UTC  

peter was the only "pope" if you wanna go with that term

2019-11-12 15:02:10 UTC  

And he was the only one promised by jesus to the tying earth with heaven thing

2019-11-12 15:02:13 UTC  

Ah yes ofc