im a campus conservative

if they cluster, that can be a race

afro-latino

@Banjod Clusters arent race.

first of all, in the idea of race, race is not one level of classification, you can think of different levels

yep clusters are races

that's literally it

that _can_ be a race

they are used to justify a group

the frequency of genes, right?

what else do we have?

magic?

a race is any cluster above the family level and below the species level

in the english language

yek, why do you want races not to be real

that's the real thing here

oh yeah?
so then where do Elves come from?
check. mate.

so if you accept that there is a continuum of human genetics and that they cluster somewhat then you are a race realist

the rest is a matter of degree

personally, I don't even defend race anymore, I only defend gene pools/ethnic groups

that's conceding territory

that you don't need to concede

there is no difference between those things Hector

Ethnos is just the Greek word for Race

People should be:

Communist with their family.
NatSoc with their race.
Ancap for the world.

Race is the Germanic/English word

clusters are race

race is real

I start with the gene pool and move forward.

saying 'oh ***ethnicity*** exists, but ***race*** doesn't' is literally braindead

yes, however clustering humans genetically do not show a substantial variation to justify discrete biological categories. Not to say there are not any genetic variation between human populations, we can use SNPs for example to figure out genetic ancestry.

people are not drawings

people are physical

I debated a molecular genetist who was mexican. And I did not make progress until I went from the gene pool to race

different races are physical

races are subspecies

they are real

what do you mean Hector

did you get that backwards?

the different groups LOOK different, they have different CLUSTERS of frequency of genes, they ACT differently, they SOUND different, they PERFORM different, the brain is different, the size, the size/ ratio of parts, they have different strengths and weaknesses on IQ tests.
This is universal wherever they are.

you mean from race to gene pool?