Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-11-15 06:24:32 UTC  

just all of it

2019-11-15 06:24:48 UTC  

Essentially that choosing the line which we call race is arbitrary.

2019-11-15 06:24:54 UTC  

We can cluster them

2019-11-15 06:25:01 UTC  

But humans are still picking the lines

2019-11-15 06:25:07 UTC  

and more arguments

2019-11-15 06:25:27 UTC  

He is right. i actually agree with that point.

2019-11-15 06:25:31 UTC  

yeah humans are still picking the lines so what?

2019-11-15 06:25:39 UTC  

I'm not gonna start to believe this is how japanese look

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/644785065250914334/unknown.png

2019-11-15 06:25:41 UTC  

you can base them on different things though

2019-11-15 06:25:52 UTC  

Then, race is a social construct then. I agree with him there

2019-11-15 06:25:55 UTC  

you could have different parameters to get different level groups

2019-11-15 06:26:06 UTC  

all of life is a continuum

2019-11-15 06:26:14 UTC  

of course race is a social construct, but so is specie..

2019-11-15 06:26:17 UTC  

He brought that up too

2019-11-15 06:26:26 UTC  

That evolution is constant

2019-11-15 06:26:41 UTC  

I swear, the more I thought about it, the more I realized these people think race is a magical term

2019-11-15 06:26:42 UTC  

That is why if you start with race, you must stalemate.

2019-11-15 06:26:48 UTC  

they think once they admit to race, everything changes

2019-11-15 06:26:51 UTC  

I don't understand at all

2019-11-15 06:26:54 UTC  

We need not better arguments but more convincing ones.

2019-11-15 06:27:02 UTC  

these arguments are easy to defeat

2019-11-15 06:27:12 UTC  

race realism would collapse all liberal politics

2019-11-15 06:27:21 UTC  

^

2019-11-15 06:27:21 UTC  

maybe, bu tit's just a word

2019-11-15 06:27:26 UTC  

it's weird

2019-11-15 06:27:32 UTC  

like REALLY weird

2019-11-15 06:27:34 UTC  

i mean, enlightenment, liberal democratic politics

2019-11-15 06:27:35 UTC  

humans are picking the boundaries between species as well

2019-11-15 06:27:42 UTC  

you choose what your standards are

2019-11-15 06:27:43 UTC  

They are very easy to beat but not easy to convince anyone.

2019-11-15 06:27:56 UTC  

and then you can fulfill objectively with data

2019-11-15 06:27:57 UTC  

I don't find this old argument convincing myself anymore.

2019-11-15 06:28:00 UTC  

so.. if that is true

2019-11-15 06:28:11 UTC  

'I don't find it convincing myself'

2019-11-15 06:28:12 UTC  

then we know what we need to focus on explaining to people

2019-11-15 06:28:14 UTC  

what does that even mean

2019-11-15 06:28:16 UTC  

exaclty this

2019-11-15 06:28:19 UTC  

there are no counterarguments

2019-11-15 06:28:21 UTC  

if this breaks it all...

2019-11-15 06:28:29 UTC  

its a confusion in terms

2019-11-15 06:28:34 UTC  

that's literally it