Message from @Chawosaurian

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2019-12-16 16:37:34 UTC  

would take monopolistic control

2019-12-16 16:37:53 UTC  

Of arbitration

2019-12-16 16:38:16 UTC  

Because in the old times people would go to these best among them to settle disputes

2019-12-16 16:38:35 UTC  

But the 1 elitist who wanted it a barred anyone else from taking that role

2019-12-16 16:38:50 UTC  

i think you should incorporate changes in material conditions

2019-12-16 16:38:54 UTC  

such as the rise of agriculture

2019-12-16 16:39:04 UTC  

It doesnt inherently cause it

2019-12-16 16:39:04 UTC  

you'll probably have a much more realistic understanding that way

2019-12-16 16:39:12 UTC  

yes it does

2019-12-16 16:39:15 UTC  

No

2019-12-16 16:39:29 UTC  

There will be more elites with increased population

2019-12-16 16:39:44 UTC  

but you speak of progress

2019-12-16 16:39:49 UTC  

Its just a question of, will the elites allow that 1 elitist to monopolize their rights

2019-12-16 16:39:51 UTC  

implying change

2019-12-16 16:40:01 UTC  

not just cycles

2019-12-16 16:40:04 UTC  

its an evolution

2019-12-16 16:40:20 UTC  

the "progress" or "evolution" would mostly occur due to technological change

2019-12-16 16:40:25 UTC  

Sometimes it was reverted

2019-12-16 16:40:28 UTC  

and perhaps genetic change

2019-12-16 16:40:39 UTC  

though it's harder to know about that

2019-12-16 16:40:43 UTC  

As during the collapse of the Western Roman Empire

2019-12-16 16:41:02 UTC  

You had this halfway rollback

2019-12-16 16:41:04 UTC  

culture does not exist in a vacuum

2019-12-16 16:41:16 UTC  

nor, obviously, does ideology

2019-12-16 16:41:21 UTC  

but i wanted to be more broad

2019-12-16 16:41:25 UTC  

Culture lives in the genes

2019-12-16 16:41:47 UTC  

The state is not necessary to maintain it

2019-12-16 16:41:56 UTC  

but the big changes we saw were obviously due to changes in technology

2019-12-16 16:42:08 UTC  

it's just stupid to ignore them

2019-12-16 16:42:10 UTC  

Perhaps weaponry tech

2019-12-16 16:42:19 UTC  

as if something like christianity would develop without large empires

2019-12-16 16:42:23 UTC  

Even then, all the different elites would acquire better weaponry

2019-12-16 16:42:47 UTC  

agriculture

2019-12-16 16:42:55 UTC  

Christianity would develop and not get corrupted as quickly

2019-12-16 16:43:01 UTC  

no, it wouldn't

2019-12-16 16:43:13 UTC  

What you would see is it wouldnt turn into Papism

2019-12-16 16:43:26 UTC  

But it wouls grow slower

2019-12-16 16:43:32 UTC  

it wouldn't grow at all

2019-12-16 16:43:40 UTC  

It grew regardless

2019-12-16 16:43:49 UTC  

it grew in the context of a large empire

2019-12-16 16:43:58 UTC  

It makes growth easier