Message from @Chawosaurian

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2019-12-23 19:25:04 UTC  

that if you have the ***Merit*** there will be no obstacles to how high you can go in the society

2019-12-23 19:25:28 UTC  

that nobody gets preferential treatment or advantage based on their birth

2019-12-23 19:25:35 UTC  

Hmm

2019-12-23 19:25:46 UTC  

in work or income or social mobility

2019-12-23 19:26:16 UTC  

Are these advantages or preferential treatment just state enforced

2019-12-23 19:27:32 UTC  

you mean right now?

2019-12-23 19:27:53 UTC  

no they are a result of private tyrannies basically

2019-12-23 19:28:06 UTC  

according to left libertarians

2019-12-23 19:28:09 UTC  

In that case

2019-12-23 19:28:21 UTC  

That distinguishes paleos from left libertarians

2019-12-23 19:28:33 UTC  

The very fact that one is born in a respected family would easily result in people voluntarily deciding to giving these people preferential treatment

2019-12-23 19:28:43 UTC  

exactly

2019-12-23 19:29:00 UTC  

And to prevent this would possibly require compulsion

2019-12-23 19:29:20 UTC  

How do you prevent people from giving preferential treatment

2019-12-23 19:29:39 UTC  

that's where it gets fuzzy for them, they don't want to say that it does, but it really does

2019-12-23 19:29:52 UTC  

well by not having privately owned industries

2019-12-23 19:29:56 UTC  

Contradictions within left libertarians

2019-12-23 19:30:08 UTC  

Atleast when it regards libertarianism

2019-12-23 19:30:36 UTC  

they are better anarchists than they are libertarians

2019-12-23 19:30:45 UTC  

Yes

2019-12-23 19:31:13 UTC  

There seems to be some sort of Tyrannical Anarchy variant

2019-12-23 19:31:33 UTC  

We still compel people with violence , its just not done with the state

2019-12-23 19:32:17 UTC  

You do atleast realize these political ideologies are like surgical tools for the elites to play upon populations with.
For example.... Communism and leftist socialism are great for wealth extraction by the (((bankers)))
Capitalism is good for siphoning masses of wealth to become the focal point of a military you can make your bitch and play off of other global powers until it's time to go communism and begin the extraction methods.
Libertarianism is you get when they just want to see chaos and self destruction.
Democracy and central banks you install at the end to consilidate your puppet fake dialectic of choice system and you permaowned.

2019-12-23 19:32:55 UTC  

Chaos and self destruction

2019-12-23 19:33:08 UTC  

Because violence is made a non option

2019-12-23 19:33:11 UTC  

Hmmmmmm

2019-12-23 19:33:26 UTC  

no because in this vacum blood fills in the gaps

2019-12-23 19:33:32 UTC  

What vacuum

2019-12-23 19:33:37 UTC  

lol

2019-12-23 19:33:52 UTC  

Force vectors still exist

2019-12-23 19:34:01 UTC  

Its just configured differently

2019-12-23 19:34:19 UTC  

force vectors

2019-12-23 19:34:24 UTC  

mkay

2019-12-23 19:34:28 UTC  

Thats the vacuum

2019-12-23 19:34:34 UTC  

No force

2019-12-23 19:34:42 UTC  

So some other force appears

2019-12-23 19:34:51 UTC  

But force will remain

2019-12-23 19:34:59 UTC  

the critical flaw with right libertarianism is that voluntarism is a horrible paradigm to base your entire moral system off of

2019-12-23 19:35:05 UTC  

It will be decentralized and be more reactive

2019-12-23 19:35:22 UTC  

Horrible kek