Message from @La Fin du Monde

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2019-12-24 04:58:23 UTC  

No, I didn't mean philosophers. I meant the books from India

2019-12-24 04:58:27 UTC  

India was a complex society.
The upper class had sex pallaces..
but most people only had sex with one person.

2019-12-24 04:58:41 UTC  

hardmode cope so hard you meme a how set of laws about naps

2019-12-24 04:58:49 UTC  

But that negates your hypothesis, @virtue

2019-12-24 04:58:50 UTC  

lol

2019-12-24 04:58:57 UTC  

The hindus did build the same sex hareems as found all over the world.

2019-12-24 04:59:12 UTC  

pooerpower 2020

2019-12-24 04:59:22 UTC  

they will poo the world on new years

2019-12-24 04:59:25 UTC  

I don't think that there is a correlation with monogamy and hedonism.

2019-12-24 04:59:27 UTC  

@La Fin du Monde

No. Hedonistic opinions are present in India.

2019-12-24 04:59:30 UTC  

💩

2019-12-24 04:59:37 UTC  

They are everywhere

2019-12-24 04:59:45 UTC  

@La Fin du Monde are you slow bro?

2019-12-24 04:59:54 UTC  

men where mean have many wifes

2019-12-24 05:00:07 UTC  

every great man has many wifes

2019-12-24 05:00:18 UTC  

Hindus value sexual pleasure and
debate pain and pleasure.

2019-12-24 05:00:51 UTC  

Some great men have no wives and some have several and some are gay

2019-12-24 05:00:52 UTC  

But they believe in reincarnation and stuff. You have to be a good person, etc. There are many examples of selflessness in the Vedas. Not hedonism

2019-12-24 05:01:02 UTC  

I've not heard of a correlation. Why would hedonistic societies be more monogamous?

2019-12-24 05:01:05 UTC  

k-seks gud
r-seks bad

2019-12-24 05:01:30 UTC  

@Smoke, that is @virtue's hypothesis.

2019-12-24 05:01:36 UTC  

Hedonism is that we should strive for pleasure
and avoid pain.
Hedonism also says that this how we learn..
its a teaching philosophy.
People learn by measuring the world
according to the pleasure and pain
associated with the consequense.

2019-12-24 05:02:06 UTC  

Great men from the past seem to rape the best women of the places they conquer, have wives only fore diplomatic reasons, and have male lovers

2019-12-24 05:02:12 UTC  

Hedonistic societies are monogamious
because most societies are monogamious

2019-12-24 05:02:17 UTC  

I think monogamy is correlated with stable, somewhat egalitarian societies.

2019-12-24 05:02:24 UTC  

I don't think most societies are hedonistic

2019-12-24 05:02:36 UTC  

Especially not when considering historical societies.

2019-12-24 05:02:59 UTC  

yeah, I think egalitarian

2019-12-24 05:03:02 UTC  

all wealthy socieites become hedonistic

2019-12-24 05:03:12 UTC  

non-hedonism is a way to handle poverty

2019-12-24 05:03:20 UTC  

And female chastity is correlated with agrarianism.

2019-12-24 05:03:25 UTC  

it's a ancient word bruh

2019-12-24 05:03:33 UTC  

Maybe wealthy societies are wealthy due to their monogamy?

2019-12-24 05:03:34 UTC  

all hedonistic philosophers where wealthy

2019-12-24 05:03:46 UTC  

no

2019-12-24 05:03:57 UTC  

Oh I see what you are saying, that is very ancient view tho

2019-12-24 05:04:02 UTC  

ancient terminology

2019-12-24 05:04:03 UTC  

the greek philosophy of hedonism
where based on merchants who lived in southern italy

2019-12-24 05:04:04 UTC  

rome was wealthy because of the CIA and american impericolonism

2019-12-24 05:04:04 UTC  

Just because you are a hedonistic philosopher doesn't mean that your society in general is hedonistic.

2019-12-24 05:04:42 UTC  

never forget about *chosen* and *exceptional*