Message from @Androvich

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2020-01-05 12:11:32 UTC  

Chinese society has developed at basically breakneck speed - the only reason the population really tolerates and supports the government is that that it has overseen and secured this rapid development, prosperity, and stability

2020-01-05 12:11:42 UTC  

a war would wipe all of that out in a few years

2020-01-05 12:11:51 UTC  

i am way too black pilled about this stuff lol.

2020-01-05 12:11:53 UTC  

there's just no reason for it

2020-01-05 12:11:57 UTC  

I'm fine with leaving china to it's own devices, within it's own currently established borders ofc

2020-01-05 12:12:23 UTC  
2020-01-05 12:12:30 UTC  

the Chinese government maintains power through a tacit bargain with its population to ensure security and prosperity

2020-01-05 12:12:43 UTC  

the prosperity of China is dependent on its export economy

2020-01-05 12:12:49 UTC  

like all state authorities

2020-01-05 12:13:02 UTC  

china needs to sustain it's own population somehow, but the baby policies are just messed up. how do you even get a fine line between population growth and isolation at the same time. it's such a massive task.

2020-01-05 12:13:03 UTC  

the United States, aside from being China's biggest customer, controls international sea lanes

2020-01-05 12:13:28 UTC  

there is no way, in a Great Powers War, that the United States would permit its opponents to engage in sea trade

2020-01-05 12:13:38 UTC  

without sea trade, the economy of China will collapse

2020-01-05 12:13:42 UTC  

in the past, wars would thin out the population. now we can't do that.

2020-01-05 12:14:06 UTC  

we need an epidemic

2020-01-05 12:14:32 UTC  

california can help with that

2020-01-05 12:14:35 UTC  

epidemic is not good enough, it kills pretty indiscriminately

2020-01-05 12:14:42 UTC  

I hear the black death is back

2020-01-05 12:14:47 UTC  

if only the earth would find a way to shake off the fleas. lmao. man i am way too negative. 😄

2020-01-05 12:14:55 UTC  

this problem would be extremely easy to deal with if you had the right government

2020-01-05 12:15:08 UTC  

yes, and theres no shortage of rats either

2020-01-05 12:15:20 UTC  

*right* government implies a perfect government

2020-01-05 12:15:23 UTC  

the solution to the original problem is obvious - a government controlled eugenic breeding program

2020-01-05 12:15:30 UTC  

and people have known it since the 19th century

2020-01-05 12:15:33 UTC  

that that was the solution

2020-01-05 12:15:55 UTC  

but that is so far off

2020-01-05 12:15:58 UTC  

my god

2020-01-05 12:16:06 UTC  

we've had a period of liberty and that time is reaching it's limits.

2020-01-05 12:16:08 UTC  

our governments are engaged in active dysgenics

2020-01-05 12:16:11 UTC  

on a massive scale

2020-01-05 12:16:14 UTC  

on multiple fronts

2020-01-05 12:16:26 UTC  

`paradigm shift 2070`

2020-01-05 12:16:52 UTC  

You don't even have to have a "breeding program" if you just have a system where quality men rise in social status.

2020-01-05 12:17:08 UTC  

not really nerth, selection mechanism became dysgenic after the industrial revolution

2020-01-05 12:17:10 UTC  

Liberty and Individualism seem to be good for periods of expansion, particularly expansion of human society and civilization into previously uninhabited or underutilized land

2020-01-05 12:17:32 UTC  

basically low population density = liberty and individualism will succeed

2020-01-05 12:17:32 UTC  

i remember some dude on this chat said there should be a lottery system for breeding. i think that came from like isaac asimov or something can't remember.

2020-01-05 12:17:36 UTC  

just wanna grill for g*d's sake

2020-01-05 12:17:45 UTC  

the extra material in the gene pool came from weak/poor individuals that became capable of surviving

2020-01-05 12:17:45 UTC  

it appears to fail at high population pressure

2020-01-05 12:18:04 UTC  

lmfao a lottery