how often do 12 appear in nature..
but the number 12 has well know mathematical abilites
and the solar connection makes most sense

and again commonalities with surrounding cultures is normal

so what?

sight.. we need to go on about the 12

I have pleny of historical examples.

where is your proof or evidence

none of this consitutes

it's just likeness

show adoption with purpose and or intent

let me write something.. then

and if you do, explain what that means

and what it implies

adoption of culture is nothing new and is an aspect of religions

we have the mesopotamian proof when the zodiak
the system with 12 months was invented.

so I have no idea what you even mean with this leap of assertions

its not universal that you need to have 7 days a week
or 12 months a year.
You have to begin tere

I know this

as all religious people.. you have no patience.

do you have proofs

no you are telling me things I know already

12 is the zodiak

You can skip that

we have proof that this appears in all these different cultures

or ask quaifying questions

in regards to what you think I need to know

to understand your evidence

or proofs

this is logic bro

there is a logical connection

I have proof of these nummerical meanings
by centuries and centuries

Its the same in christianity with the zodiak symbols
just all the way to the greeks to the mesompotamians

ok so 12 is important historically

yes we get that

and 12 got 4 and 3 in it

4 seasons, 4 directions, 4 parts of the cross

how is this proof of anything

beyond MAYBE as an influence

..sights...

which is not a guilt admition

you know that logic is about us begining with
information, adding more information
etc

again religion adopts from surrounding cultures and assists in making new also