Message from @A B S O L U T I S T

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2020-02-04 00:06:29 UTC  

Our Ancestors saw them as People who broke the bounds of reality and achieved greatness.

2020-02-04 00:07:19 UTC  

Our ancestors really didn't believe in a creator deity, They may of had names for them but thought that they were out of the realm of our comprehension.

2020-02-04 00:07:56 UTC  

The gods we see are just In reality Gods of the Virtues and Enlightenment of a true Indo-European man/women.

2020-02-04 00:10:56 UTC  

Also Skellington the "Pale reflections" were us. All the gods descended from us, So i think that Christians can still use these Archetypes to our will.

2020-02-04 02:03:47 UTC  

Paganism didn't always grow with specific cultures- just look at the gods Romans officially worshipped before embracing Christ: you see an odd mix of Hellenic, Persian and even Egyptian.

2020-02-04 02:04:43 UTC  

Still, the core premise isn't completely false. However, just look at any Slavic culture and tell me they didn't grow with Christianity too.

2020-02-04 02:06:17 UTC  

Serbian Orthodox is a perfect example of this with various traditions (small t) growing out of their conversion, such as Slava Saints and burning the Badnjak

2020-02-04 02:08:33 UTC  

With the Romans, They adopted "Cults" this was when Rome started to become decadent. Also quoting Asha Logos here and some information by Plutarch "The Romans Descended from those refugees from troy". Furthermore great cult's that had nothing to do with the roman pantheon was the worship of Marthas. This was a roman warrior cult. Adopted when the romans were at war with the Persians. So these cults had almost nothing to do with the main roman pantheon and were we allowed to stay as it started as many cults started to be adopted by the Aristocracy.

2020-02-04 02:09:53 UTC  

Also on the note of troy this means that the Romans may of had alot of influence from these Greeks as the original people who migrated to the area may of been troy Refugees. So this must mean that Greek Religion was brought with them to this new land and slowly started to be called by another name.

2020-02-04 02:10:58 UTC  

As the Italic cultures and the Trojan culture mixed this led to the creation of the Roman pantheon which is closely related to that of there Trojan Predecessors.

2020-02-04 02:13:51 UTC  

Keep in mind Plutarch is writing in the 1st century AD

2020-02-04 02:14:27 UTC  

Admittedly, the myth of Romulus and Remus involves the Hellenic gods

2020-02-04 02:16:01 UTC  

But the earliest account is from the 3rd century and could have been inspired and inherited from nearby Greek colonies

2020-02-04 02:16:19 UTC  

Yes. But that does not disqualifies him from the discussion.

2020-02-04 02:17:06 UTC  

Plutarch mentions many times that he had researched and listened to the Greek Equalivent of Bards.

2020-02-04 02:17:40 UTC  

Well correct me if I'm wrong , but the idea that Romans were descendants of Trojans was popularized by Virgil, was it not?

2020-02-04 02:18:08 UTC  

In the Aeneid?

2020-02-04 02:18:25 UTC  

Which may be quite factual, Especially with the Greek colonies in the south. Which is not a far fetched idea that maybe a century's earlier that a group of Refugee's made there way to rome.

2020-02-04 02:18:41 UTC  

Maybe i have no read that myself.

2020-02-04 02:18:48 UTC  

Regardless, the Hellenistic religion was likely inherited from the Etruscans now that I look into it.

2020-02-04 02:18:56 UTC  

It's possible

2020-02-04 02:19:01 UTC  

I can't say

2020-02-04 02:19:03 UTC  

Could you link that. Would love to read it within my spare time.

2020-02-04 02:19:11 UTC  

The Aeneid?

2020-02-04 02:19:14 UTC  

Mhm.

2020-02-04 02:19:22 UTC  

I'll see if I can find a defend pdf

2020-02-04 02:19:30 UTC  

I'll put it in the books section

2020-02-04 02:19:45 UTC  

Ok.

2020-02-04 02:20:24 UTC  

But also maybe, The Etruscans were not a home grown culture maybe they were descended from those Trojans.

2020-02-04 02:21:12 UTC  

Because when you look into there art work and Architecture and weapons (Whatever is left). Is very similar to that of Greek Architecture.

2020-02-04 02:21:34 UTC  

And Weapon smithing.

2020-02-04 02:22:27 UTC  

Perhaps, although there suggestions that the Etruscans spoke a semetic language descended from Phoenician....but we don't know for sure since there's little in the way of their language surviving.

2020-02-04 02:22:45 UTC  

It a regionally fluid area

2020-02-04 02:23:10 UTC  

Tons of tribes, clans and colonies flitting about Mare Nostrum

2020-02-04 02:23:14 UTC  

Mhm, perhaps i am wrong did they leave any written records, Or genetic markers within there regions?.

2020-02-04 02:23:55 UTC  

Honestly, I don't know about genetics, but linguistically I know that very few words are thought to have survived

2020-02-04 02:24:19 UTC  

*Milles* the Roman unit of distance is thought to be from Etruscan iirc

2020-02-04 02:24:51 UTC  

Since it doesn't appear in either Classic Greek or Sanskrit

2020-02-04 02:25:07 UTC  

So, Quite unique.

2020-02-04 02:26:00 UTC  

Its weird as, there are no Bodys left behind by these people.

2020-02-04 02:26:32 UTC  

Heh, according to La Wik, the Etruscan word for god was probably *ais*, plural *aisar*