Message from @McFansy

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2020-02-07 08:12:42 UTC  

I always remember the question "Trying to rehabilitate some criminals is a waste of time" from the original political compass test. My answer was always agree or strongly agree.

2020-02-07 08:13:12 UTC  

I think some subset of people, unfortunately, whether it is nature or nurture, are going to be criminals.

2020-02-07 08:13:28 UTC  

Like I would be fine appointing warrior monks to weigh the souls of the accused and decide if it's quarantine or guidance.

2020-02-07 08:13:42 UTC  

lol

2020-02-07 08:13:47 UTC  

That would be amazing

2020-02-07 08:14:18 UTC  

Maybe we could castrate the really bad criminals and just make the servants of the monks

2020-02-07 08:14:41 UTC  

At least that way you can get something out of them

2020-02-07 08:14:46 UTC  

That sounds like a reasonable option for some.

2020-02-07 08:15:44 UTC  

As long as their quarantine isn't a social drain or danger all options are on the table for the corrupted and damned.

2020-02-07 08:16:47 UTC  

Yeah. That's the problem with prisons. Keeping prisoners alive costs a lot. So you want some kind of payoff

2020-02-07 08:17:16 UTC  

@McFansy Did you take this compass? I'm curious.

2020-02-07 08:17:37 UTC  

Tag me if you post it sometime.

2020-02-07 08:18:22 UTC  

I hate these kind of tests.

2020-02-07 08:18:34 UTC  

Don't be a faggot.

2020-02-07 08:18:39 UTC  

^

2020-02-07 08:18:51 UTC  

take the test, you nerd!

2020-02-07 08:19:01 UTC  

Ha

2020-02-07 08:19:34 UTC  

Honestly I could live in a communist society as long as my group is being taken care of.

2020-02-07 08:20:49 UTC  

Honestly, I hate these kinds of tests too, but this one's not as bad. The questions are pretty straight forward and to the point. There's not a lot of, " well depends and what they mean by that and the situation"

2020-02-07 08:21:49 UTC  

The first item I got in it was: Hacking has a legitimate place in political struggle.

2020-02-07 08:22:09 UTC  

legitimacy is defined by the winners

2020-02-07 08:22:26 UTC  

So agree or neutral. Easy.

2020-02-07 08:22:28 UTC  

like principles

2020-02-07 08:22:47 UTC  

principles tend to just lock in the current system as it is

2020-02-07 08:25:32 UTC  

hmm, principals are an instrument to enforce the status quo. Interesting, but I'll have to think on that.

2020-02-07 08:27:10 UTC  

Principals are self-enforced

2020-02-07 08:27:30 UTC  

Think of the principles our current system suggests that you adopt. Do the opposite

2020-02-07 08:30:05 UTC  

You are correct that principals are handed down, from authority.

2020-02-07 08:30:45 UTC  

I suppose you could even say from the Principal.

2020-02-07 08:32:02 UTC  

I'm going to have to think about the relationship between principals and integrity. That's interesting, there's something to this that I haven't considered before.

2020-02-07 08:34:11 UTC  

I always thought that someone who embodied integrity was someone who held to their principals. But, if the principals are bestowed from authority, then they didn't originate from the individual.

2020-02-07 08:34:54 UTC  

I don't accept moral relativism, so the authority that bestowed the principals is either moral and just, or not.

2020-02-07 08:35:38 UTC  

If the moral authority is corrupt, and the principals are held, then the individual has integrity.

2020-02-07 08:35:45 UTC  

..but is corrupt.

2020-02-07 08:35:51 UTC  

Mind blown

2020-02-07 08:36:27 UTC  

Then you have to bring in the realist point of view. The Melian Dialogue is one of my favorites.

2020-02-07 08:38:53 UTC  

Wait is that true what I was thinking out loud there? Does that check out? An individual with integrity only means that they are intact with the principals that were bestowed on them from the authority and has no bearing on morality?

2020-02-07 08:40:12 UTC  

not all principles come from authority

2020-02-07 08:40:26 UTC  

like in most of life, it depends

2020-02-07 08:41:04 UTC  

the most principled communist might have integrity with how he defines it, but he can still do evil to others

2020-02-07 08:41:32 UTC  

Most of my life I've held Integrity as my highest value, but I haven't revisited it in awhile.