Message from @Crux

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2018-11-11 06:04:04 UTC  

I want to create the ultimate leviathan

2018-11-11 06:04:06 UTC  

You seriously think this is stable?

2018-11-11 06:04:09 UTC  

where the state can never be overthrown

2018-11-11 06:04:12 UTC  

what is "this"?

2018-11-11 06:04:20 UTC  

if you can point me to a limited suffrage state

2018-11-11 06:04:23 UTC  

Mate

2018-11-11 06:04:56 UTC  

have you read heinlein?

2018-11-11 06:05:09 UTC  

I'm trying to say a system other than monarchy isn't inherently more stable

2018-11-11 06:05:17 UTC  

I seriously buy into his ideology

2018-11-11 06:05:20 UTC  

hasn't been tried before

2018-11-11 06:05:25 UTC  

has enough merit to be tried

2018-11-11 06:05:37 UTC  

Why can't we just not have elections

2018-11-11 06:05:39 UTC  

but I think his focus on service and duty is not enough

2018-11-11 06:05:54 UTC  

The masses don't deserve power

2018-11-11 06:06:03 UTC  

and I'm not giving the masses power

2018-11-11 06:06:06 UTC  

in such a satet

2018-11-11 06:06:18 UTC  

If you guarantee right to vote to anyone who serves and is Christian you are offering a chance to become part of the ruling class

2018-11-11 06:06:18 UTC  

the electorate would probably be like .04% of the population

2018-11-11 06:06:27 UTC  

It's not as restrictive as an aristocracy

2018-11-11 06:06:40 UTC  

Also

2018-11-11 06:06:45 UTC  

if the guy thinks he wants to give 8 years of his life to the State and God and die in some godforsaken ditch

2018-11-11 06:06:51 UTC  

i think he's good enough to vote tbh

2018-11-11 06:06:56 UTC  

shows he has the right priorities

2018-11-11 06:06:56 UTC  

How are you absolutely certain that this cannot coexist with a monarchy

2018-11-11 06:07:02 UTC  

it can

2018-11-11 06:07:06 UTC  

which would be bretty good

2018-11-11 06:07:09 UTC  

like a check and balance

2018-11-11 06:07:15 UTC  

You said monarchy is big gay...?

2018-11-11 06:07:20 UTC  

absolute monarchy

2018-11-11 06:07:23 UTC  

is big gay

2018-11-11 06:07:31 UTC  

and so is elective monarchy

2018-11-11 06:07:41 UTC  

electing monarchs defeats the whole purpose

2018-11-11 06:07:42 UTC  

So military, clergy, and monarchy have a checks and balances in this scenario

2018-11-11 06:07:45 UTC  

yeah

2018-11-11 06:07:46 UTC  

Correct?

2018-11-11 06:07:47 UTC  

yes

2018-11-11 06:07:51 UTC  

basically prussia 2.0 tbh

2018-11-11 06:07:55 UTC  

Ok

2018-11-11 06:08:13 UTC  

what role would the church leader play tbh

2018-11-11 06:08:23 UTC  

You said churches vet the potential electorate

2018-11-11 06:08:25 UTC  

Caesaro-papism?