Message from @Daniil

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2019-03-12 16:17:48 UTC  

The occupation of what was Byzantium by the pagan Turks is to be seen as providential protection to avoid falling into joining in union with the West

2019-03-12 16:18:12 UTC  

So sometimes the ideal of a king is not yet ready

2019-03-12 16:18:39 UTC  

It may not be in God’s time

2019-03-12 16:27:17 UTC  

Like it or not catholics are our brothers in christ. Even if they're heretics

2019-03-12 16:29:16 UTC  

Cradle orthodox dont usually share the opinion on Catholics that converts have. We're much warmer to them

2019-03-12 16:30:30 UTC  

As a former Catholic, I have a hard time seeing that, but I do not hate them

2019-03-12 16:35:08 UTC  

You can be a former anything, the point is that you're former.

2019-03-12 16:35:27 UTC  

Your soul is absolutely different from a cradle Orthodox

2019-03-12 16:38:13 UTC  

ontologically only *the* Church is Christian and others are at best icons of the church
I might call a filioquist brother, but brother in Christ? Not exactly

2019-03-12 16:38:28 UTC  

Although I'll gang up on Protestants with him

2019-03-12 16:49:30 UTC  

I see a lot of dgenerate cradle Orthodox

2019-03-12 16:49:52 UTC  

So?

2019-03-12 16:50:13 UTC  

Very one dimensional of you to assume that all cradles are virtuous by the sole merit of being cradle

2019-03-12 16:50:31 UTC  

Yet you say my soul is different

2019-03-12 16:50:54 UTC  

Like I'm some foriegn body.

2019-03-12 16:55:28 UTC  

Yes you are

2019-03-12 16:55:40 UTC  

And the degenerate cradles are estranged bodies

2019-03-12 16:55:51 UTC  

Doesn't make you better than me

2019-03-12 16:56:01 UTC  

Not in the eyes of God, no

2019-03-12 16:57:19 UTC  

But in relation to you on the human level, I am more likely to retain the spirit of Orthodoxy

2019-03-12 16:57:35 UTC  

At least I like to believe that

2019-03-12 16:57:59 UTC  

Cradles are more likely to apostatize too

2019-03-12 16:58:18 UTC  

Converts are more likely to ruin everything

2019-03-12 16:58:49 UTC  

Cradles take for granted what they have had

2019-03-12 16:59:30 UTC  

You got rabid sectarians that screech at the sight of a catholic on one side and crypto-communist infiltrators that havent given up their previous convictions on the other

2019-03-12 16:59:55 UTC  

Hence why Orthodoxy in USA is a hit or miss

2019-03-12 17:00:11 UTC  

Whereas back at home it remains steadfast.

2019-03-12 17:00:17 UTC  

So what are your thoughts on Jay Dyer?

2019-03-12 17:00:46 UTC  

I am not a movie person so Ive never really been interested enough to listen to his shows

2019-03-12 17:00:54 UTC  

But I know he attracts a lot of converts

2019-03-12 17:01:08 UTC  

Usually the screechy types

2019-03-12 17:01:09 UTC  

It's not all about movies though

2019-03-12 17:01:28 UTC  

I first heard about him several years ago, before his conversion

2019-03-12 17:02:46 UTC  

Honestly, he didnt peak my interest, thats all

2019-03-12 17:03:06 UTC  

His topics dont usually interest me

2019-03-12 17:03:27 UTC  

I am more of a straight up history and politics guy.

2019-03-12 17:10:21 UTC  

Literally this

2019-03-12 17:12:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452069937305878530/555075584187695114/image.jpg

2019-03-12 17:13:22 UTC  

😳

2019-03-12 18:04:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452069937305878530/555088748073844746/image0.jpg