Individualism and collectivism is a false dialectic, there can be harmony

Nigga I am volunteering as a sniper when SHTF

However, it does prove that God has a sense of humor, because the "liberty" fanatics always need to rely upon a powerful, supra-personal, entity, either a State or a "community" of common people, that essentially goes against the entire point of individualism and personal liberty in the first place, to secure it.

Capitalism socialism is the same

Roof Korean squad

None of them are either willing, or strong enough, to literally fight for themselves. They just want the appearance of such.

@Arkona 92 How significant is the growth in East Asia?

@Mr. Byzantium of Orthodoxy?

Yeah

I'd have to check

But it's getting there

They have around a combined total of 1.5 mil

Individualists are always steamrolled over by people who aren't retarded, and actually form communities.

"Liberty" lovers are always steamrolled over by people who subject themselves to a strict code of discipline.

@Arkona 92 If you could make an educated guess with factoring in the decline of the West, how soon do you think one would see major moves in East Asia toward Christianity? Within our lifetimes?

@Mr. Byzantium I haven't studied the growth there so I'm pulling things out of my ass (hey I can be a journo), if we look as East Asia growing in Orthodoxy in our lives will be very optimistic. More often than not, Japan, Korea, Indonesia and the Philippines would have a better rate of growing than say China, Burma, Vietnam, etc given the population size and the retention of Asian Buddhism and Catholicism

I don't expect the Western systems, or anything like them, to rise again for a long time.

Russia will probably be maintained

It’s not part of the EU system

The entire belief on which they're built is that they'll literally never fail, but instead continue to "progress". When they come crashing down, no one will believe that anymore.

Until we forget in a couple thousand years, maybe

Lmao

Is the collapse in our lifetime?

Just the collapse in general

It happened before in Rome, but now that 1800 years have passed, people don't see the cycle again, so it continues.

However Rome never held to this idea of eternal progress, so that ideology has no chance after it collapses.

I thought Rome fell in 410?

The entire idea of globalism, and progress, are built on the idea that the systems that keep it in place won't ever fail, because if they ever do, its followers would all essentially just be a bunch of flabby, ineffectual, sheltered, spoiled, people, who can't fight, can't stand violence of any kind, and generally have no drive to even attempt to restablish what they lost because before the fall their greatest concern was getting the new Iphone. Essentially just easy pickings for anyone who didn't follow the ideology. That's why shit like the UN and International Law is so important to them. It's a system that can't survive any stress put on it, and would just collapse and burn, and be lost to the annals of history, if it lost power for even a few months.

@Mr. Byzantium Yeah, give or take

Also, how soon do you see a collapse? Around 2030?

I don't think it'll be soon, but when it happens, it'll snowball real fast.

Basically as soon as the United States military is rendered ineffectual, the entire thing is fucked.

Is 2030 considered too soon? 🤔

Any of the European countries, in their current states, are too weak to exert their will over other states, except for maybe some Africian nations, much less exert International Law across the whole world. Russia doesn't care, and has even showed itself to be a sort of silent opposition against it. China doesn't give a fuck either way. The United States is pretty much the only thing holding it all together at this point.

@Mr. Byzantium Probably

I doubt there will be a 'huge' revival of anything, except maybe in the East. In the West, as soon it happens, it's going to be like a new Dark Ages.

Filming has started for the "The Young Pope" sequel series.

Cool

John Malkovich is the new pope. I don't quite know how to feel about that.

Changing topic

I can never take him seriously after playing Lenny in Of Mice and Men.