Prayers and whatnot for our Scandy chaps

What's your guys' thoughts on the rite of mortification of the flesh? Pic related.

The constantly whipping yourself is obviously just some sadomasochistic demon bullshit

Lol it exists in Eastern Orthodog tradition too

My understanding is that it's far less of a thing in the eastern tradition because our monks actually fast

The flesh is mortified with fasting, vigil, obedience, other things like that primarily

Well, I mean, first off, our monks fast too. Secondly, I know the Orthodox Church accepts the practices of the early Church, and the early Syrian monks did practice mortification of the flesh, not by using a discipline (a flog, basically) but by wearing hair-shirts or sack-cloths. Heck, it was actually a regular practice in the Old Testament religion as well.

I distinctly remember hearing something from a fellow parishioner about an orthodox monk who visited a catholic monestary and was in his cell praying, when he was disturbed from prayer by the sounds of the whips, and saw how the monks didn't keep any fast except for fish friday, and ate pretty normal/extravagant by monastic standards food

I'd have to get a source for the story

Asked him on fb

What Order was it supposed to be?

I'll have to let you know when I get a reply

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Back on topic though, do you think something's wrong with hair-shirts even?

never mind, I'm going to bed now actually

I'd have to do more thinking about it, since there is a place for increasing the hardship that a monastic goes through to increase their sanctity, and for some wearing a hair-shirt would be the right thing to do, but in general those methods of asceticism seem a bit extreme and prone to inflate one's pride

In particular the excessive flagellation when you don't have a solid foundation of prayer, fasting, vigil, etc

But I'm not a monastic and I don't run a monastery

So my opinion doesn't even matter here

Self flagellation...?

summary: it's bad because catholics.

@ChuuniMage Every time you talk, it is to slander catholics and then you have the nerve to talk about pride

Tell me, how long until you say that catholics dont believe in the divinity of Christ? Or that catholics arent Christian? Or that Catholicism was an invention of Constantine?

I believe I've already said the first two statements

😉

Maybe not the first one here

But I was having a discussion with a Thomist and what he was saying sounded disturbingly close to nestorianism

Can you let me know how, if I were to make the argument, Catholicism was invented by Constantine?

Well the things you say sound disturbingly close to protestantism

And that is something they love to say

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That's because Catholic|Protestants are two halves of the dialectic that Satan has split you two into

We look like Catholics to Prots, and we look like Prots to you

But the real answer is to do all the good parts of what both of you do

and we do them

because we have the actual fullness of the faith

pffffahaha

The only thing you have is complete spiritual delusion and arrogance beyond bounds

Observe how Im not a rabid dog trying to attack orthodoxy. I do that when that is the matter at hand. But Im talking about you

I would rather say that you have what is bad from both

Every virtue comes with a corresponding vice, yes.