there really is no debate on vax once you've learned that tbh

@Byzas father of vaccination... Let's see... Vaccination goes back to 17th century India and China at least. Innoculation in general goes back to 10th century China... It was known about in Europe by at least 1700 as we have records of it reaching Europe by then and inoculation was going in Greece in the beginning of the 18th century...

Jenner invented the first vaccine as we know it today in 1796...

Hilleman (1919-2005) invented more vaccines than anyone else and retired in 1984....

So who is the "father of vaccines" here that so horribly suggested we use them to weaken and kill people?

Perhaps such an individual is not the "father of vaccines" as you claim.

Surely not Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) either, who coined the term "vaccine?"

let me clarify
father of mass vaccination

@Quarantine_Zone

Ok, so the guy who proposed vaccination en masse in the 1970s had poor intentions

Or rather, the guy who spearheaded it

But vaccination was in widespread use already before then

Perhaps not at the same scale, but in wide use indeed

And it had been for a long time

We even have records in the 1800s of vaccination campaigns in the US to prevent the deaths of Natives susceptible to disease

Antifa "grrr no guns"
Also antifa:

*Pulls out gun¨*

Btw i just "switched" to orthodox church fams, pls put my tag as Dog. (?

@Quarantine_Zone Did those same vaccines in the 1800s contain mercury ingredigents and other nonsense?

My issue isn't with vaccines as a concept, but things that are in vaccines that are completly unneeded

There are mercury-free vaccines

All to save a few dollars though to use as a perservative at the cost of people

@arsenicMysticist switched how

He converted

Well, for once i consider both churches to be one and the same, so i don't really thing i'm converting or changing anything but for lack of a better term i say it that way.

I have decided to profess the orthodox doctrine now.

God bless you, I hope the best for you in your journey.

Thank you a lot.

@Mr. Byzantium Do vaccines actually have mercury in them?

@TheImperator Not all, but many.

It used to prserve the vaccine but goes into the patient.

huh

@Mr. Byzantium Indeed, vaccines used Mercury as an antimicrobial for awhile

That is illegal now for the most part though

The only prominent vaccine that still uses Mercury is the Flu vaccine

But it is regulated down to less then 1 ug per vaccination

That's a tiny amounf

You'll get more than that eating fish

I'm speaking for the US here

I imagine it is similar in EU

But the reason Mercury was introduced was because it is a really good antimicrobial and also didn't hurt the effectiveness of the vaccine like many other antimicrobials did. Mercury poisoning was still a very new idea. In fact, the first study on Mercury poisoning was published 1 year before the patent for Thiomersal (the compound of organomercury used in vaccines) was filed