Message from @Lord Zedd
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The things youtube recommends me. It's a couple of years old, but this was certainty a fun way to watch a police chase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ws1j8A6LlE
https://youtu.be/IykOS3sqlRA "Hungary will welcome 'European Refugees' fleeing multicultural west."
So it begins
here's an interesting one for conservatives, would you support this?
government intervention and subsidies for children to address lower birth rates and lower immigration
@Lord Zedd you mean taking less money through taxes and not imposing arbitrary regulations that increase the cost of things? I agree with that.
it wasn't just tax cuts but subsidising cars, child care and IVF
Why not make adoption easier?
And abortion illegal
is Abortion even legal in Hungary?
how did I only just find out about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg
I don’t know. I hope it isn’t.
I think the real question, is there a free market solution to declining birth rates?
abortion tends to favour the poor so you end up with higher birth rates but to single mothers and they end up being more at risk of drugs and crime, it's not just having the kids but having them be productive as well
Oh that video is great
I wonder what the case for declining birth rates being bad is aside from welfare systems
Abortion is not helpful.
less children means less workers but also less people to feed
Adoption is preferable
Fixes the issue
I think the lower birth rate among the higher class means that there's more resources put into fewer children giving them better chances in life
Generally yes
so lax immigration policy seems to just be introducing problems into something that isn't necessarily a problem
I guess there is no free market solution since the result of the free market in the west is lower birth rates
You'll want to keep an eye on Japan for seeing how that works out. They have a declining birthrate, so their population will decline within the next few decades, but they've been extremely resistant to immigration
I doubt it will be as bad for them as some like to claim
they're going with temporary workers instead
That’s not inherently the result of the market. It’s a result of people’s values changing. It’s what happened when the church was pushed out of society
basically accepting 0 immigration but just workers who will have claim on residency
that is still the free market though
people decide that
People can easily raise 3 children, which is replacement.
It’s a values issue.
employers also probably prefer workers without children since they're getting more of their time
The sexual revolution and feminism caused it.
Can’t take more time from females if they are stay at home moms. Most women are happier that way anyways
i think it's more broad than just feminism and sexual revolution, automation in the home, WW2's female workforce
it could be argued western society is really just optimising it's workforce getting the most value out of it
by getting women to work you almost double the work force
there's an argument that could be made that the modern economy plays a big role in it
Choices. Nothing makes women leave the home.
and fewer children is just the next step in that optimisation
The community I grew up in mostly has stay at home moms and the majority of families had 2-4 kids.
I think you overvalue feminisms contributions
a lot of the shit they take credit for was already in the works before they came along