im an atheist as well

I don't believe in any of those religions, however, I think that if we're in a simulation, the simulation must have a creator

And we're almost certainly in a simulation

but idc if someone wants to practice a religion

its their right

ok, so louis what is your moral foundation then

And if we're in a simulation with a creator I can't imagine any reason for creating such a simulation without the creator at some point judging us

ah not this shit again

when finding out if something is good or bad

Reason

Fundamental rights

based on what

louis he thinks that if the right isnt bounded by religion then they can easily descend into fascism and genocide

Your rights end where mine begin

I know I have had this convo with others

i remember this was the first thing him and i talked about

This is always where this moral relativist nonsense goes

idc about rights I don't think they exist. I just want to know what you take your moral foundations to be if you are not a moral relativeist

what are your morals based on if not go

god

R E A S O N

Individual rights

enlightenment principles

where do these come from

why those ones

if there are no rights, then you have no right to live fond.

true

They are developed from the judeo-christian faith but significantly changed

good thing states make them up and enforce them

yes

Morality is a technology just like anything else

why did you pick them

it evolves

lol oh boy

Because, it's right. Western countries are prosperous, happy, and non-oppressive

Look at precedent

Your shit causes the USSR

My shit causes America

he fundamentally doesnt agree with our axioms

im asking why you picked your axioms basically

its hard to have a conversation when we cannot agree on axioms