lol all those memes

they're all very bad

only non-regret are the bottom 3

is active noise reduction good or is it a meme ?

didnt you break the kz and the tin audio t2lol

depends

good anc is pretty good

idk how good cheap/chink anc is now

i use the t2 with bluetooth now

I believe xiaomi released some anc earphones for 50€

i still use them regardless

if you want good isolation just get ety-kids

does bluetooth really destroy quality or is it better than a cheap jack output ?

Which bt receiver are you using? @Windatica

depends on the BT

I'm about to get the xiaomi one

the trn one

the xiaomi one is good

its mmcx, not 3.5mm

at least it's what the VE clan facebook shills alot

Okay thanks, I'll go with xiaomi after all. I found my Sony iems so not falling for chink ones just yet

actually yeah

ety-kids or ety-mk2 or one of the other cheap etys will prbo do a far better job than cheap anc

it's surprising chinks don't produce original electronic music instruments

they assembled them most likely

Okay, ordered the xiaomi bt. Hope it's good.

are beat headphones actually better than some 10€ earphones ?

yes

easily

you see KZ and chi-fi created a hype for actual garbage products

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.35.59905efaIuKMuG&id=557012018890&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

looks like there's a few

just taobao shit tho

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141001.1.1192391c36qpJi&id=534106472037&scm=1007.12144.81309.42296_42296&pvid=2d25fd47-5064-4319-a5b5-be458e158d51&utparam=%7B%22x_object_type%22%3A%22item%22%2C%22x_hestia_source%22%3A%2242296%22%2C%22x_object_id%22%3A534106472037%7D&utparam=%7B%22x_object_type%22%3A%22item%22%2C%22x_hestia_source%22%3A%2242296%22%2C%22x_object_id%22%3A534106472037%7D

looks pretty cool imo

oh nice

wait ¥588.00 is 5 euros ?

@Windatica its ok someone on head-fi woke up

```I had said a while ago I wanted to skip the the ZS10 - and then caved in again. When the ZS10 were announced, Coil speculated they would be at around $30 and I put them at $80. As a trend, KZ earphones have become more expensive with every driver added. Gone are the $5 days...at least of new models. Now we are actually heading towards the $80 region.

And that's how it always appears to go:

1. KZ, often through the phonograph, announce a new model.
2. There is lots of talk and speculation on discussion lists without any knowledge about them.
3. This generates a hype.
4. Sellers run a pre-sale at really good prices.
5. People like me get sucked in.
6. IEM is officially released at a substantially higher price than pre-sale.
7. Early adopters rave about the new iem or they don't...both typically happens.
8. The hype dies down.
9. Some anniversary sale gives the cost conscious a second chance to get a good price.
10. The next model is announced...hype, speculation etc. set in once again.
11. "Old" model price drops by 30% permanently, three months after its release.
12. Presale and sale of the latest model, "old" model added to the drawer with the other 15 KZ hybrids.
13. etc. etc.
```

@baba 588 yuan not yen

you don't even have to be woke, just buy a brand name cheap iem and realize how bad kz is