We need more shame in general

But I'd rather shame towards success.

HAES is a weirdo cult

It's a problem that in society it's become more prevalent to tolerate.

Which I don't remember, but that quiz had something related to that.

"Power and glory make a people greater, whereas toleration makes a people weaker."

tolerance is too vague a term tbh

what is the action taken when someone is intolerant? Is it disapproval? Is it legal measures?

it used to be that you could tolerate an action without approving of it - you could criticize it, and criticize the person exhibiting the behaviour in question, but it was tolerant because you were keeping it to civilized channels

then it meant keep quiet or support, now it just seems to be unconditional support

True.

so I would say tolerance in the classical sense provides social cohesion - there has to be a level of civility and the expectation of such between individuals who may disagree about issues within the boundaries of "not an existential threat". Tolerance in the postmodern soyboy sense is the ruination of societal structure

Unconditional support is poor, and if you keep quiet that *might* imply you're complicit with their actions but I'm not sure what the delineation is considering "The Squad" thinks that if you support Trump in any capacity then you're [insert every bullshit line in the book].

Tolerance used to mean that whatever you're tolerating is undesirable or distasteful

Otherwise there's no need to tolerate anything

Right, there has to be some level of civility but if someone personally wrongs me, or my family I will excommunicate them.

Granted that can depend on context.

I think this comes back to my prior issue - we seem to be bad at creating a hard boundary while still navigating instances of moral ambiguity

@Lord Zedd
Pineapple belongs on pizza.
Because I'm litterally HITLER.

catastrophically bad, in fact

Pineapple does **NOT** belong on 'za.

Back to the gulag with you Curry.

bad ideas are best sold in small steps, and we as a group seem to not have the tools to take those steps in as part of the wider context

case in point, pineapple on pizza. Heaviest of heresies, now tolerated

https://tenor.com/Rgfx.gif

I guess I'm gonna say it

the n word?

Pineapple on pizza is best pizza

oh, even worse

You're all pineapplephobes

YES

I fuckin love pineapple and jalapeno pizza

excuse me while I dismantle my glasses so my genetic dead end eyeballs cannot see this debauchery

I thought you were a good, puritan woman, Yuma

Gross.

Spicy and sweet. So good together

See, I might be willing to try pineapple and jalapeno but not pineapple by it's lonesome.

I'm torn.

Lol

Let the people engage in their debauchery. So long as they don't challenge the order and safety of society