Message from @Beemann

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2019-08-28 21:14:14 UTC  

oh wait that is views

2019-08-28 21:14:16 UTC  

They mostly go off comments

2019-08-28 21:14:28 UTC  

total views though? Not views per video?

2019-08-28 21:14:56 UTC  

I think that's total channel views

2019-08-28 21:15:23 UTC  

that's a metric that massively favours channels that have been around for some time then (and with no bans lol)

2019-08-28 21:15:47 UTC  

if anything the various Sargon channels should be combined into one number, for one

2019-08-28 21:16:42 UTC  

they feel the need to go back a decade for some reason despite these groups not really being a thing pre 2014/2015 and I'd say 2017 for the IDW

2019-08-28 21:17:26 UTC  

They even admit most of the channels that did exist at that point weren't doing political videos yet

2019-08-28 21:17:45 UTC  

Matt was still posting COD rage

2019-08-28 21:18:11 UTC  

IDW is stupid, it changes and honestly it doesn't mean anything, it was an off-handed comment about some people, its not specific genre

2019-08-28 21:19:02 UTC  

They also seem to lump in main stream conservative with IDW

2019-08-28 21:19:08 UTC  

it's an actual intentional joke

2019-08-28 21:19:12 UTC  

by Weinstein

2019-08-28 21:19:45 UTC  

He said he wanted it to sound dumb so people would remember it

2019-08-28 21:19:46 UTC  

when i said stupid, i meant the group they have as the IDW

2019-08-28 21:20:00 UTC  

more like nonsensical than stupid imho

2019-08-28 21:20:41 UTC  

oh yeah

2019-08-28 21:20:45 UTC  

it's just sort of whoever

2019-08-28 21:20:55 UTC  

when really what it actually is, is a small social network

2019-08-28 21:20:57 UTC  

the IDW list they give is like WTF

2019-08-28 21:22:17 UTC  

If you want, we can create our own IDW right here and now. All we have to do is work on steelmanning and responding more inquisitively than accusatory or in an adversarial context

2019-08-28 21:22:40 UTC  

thats the whole blueprint, and yet people dont understand the structure

2019-08-28 21:25:33 UTC  

I'd say the core IDW is JBP, the Weinstiens, Sam Harris, and Shapiro. Rubin and Rogan are thrown in there but they really only host them. There are people that follow their style but a lot of the channels they list straight up don't or have been doing it longer than them

2019-08-28 21:26:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/616383247173288012/unknown.png

2019-08-28 21:27:32 UTC  

I think I'd count Rogan in for sure, given his interview method

2019-08-28 21:27:41 UTC  

Even by their metrics they say the pipeline would account for less than half of Alt right viewers

2019-08-28 21:27:53 UTC  

if we're looking at what the IDW actually is, rather than conscious label application

2019-08-28 21:28:17 UTC  

"infection" lolwut

2019-08-28 21:29:05 UTC  

It's a measure of how frequently the users commented on alt right videos

2019-08-28 21:31:44 UTC  

I"m infected

2019-08-28 21:33:01 UTC  

how does it know if the comments are pro or anti? or do they care?

2019-08-28 21:34:43 UTC  

That's one of the major flaws in this study, negative comments count the same as posititve

2019-08-28 21:35:04 UTC  

NuAnCe bRo

2019-08-28 21:36:31 UTC  

Given that I'd like to see Breadtube thrown in I bet the numbers are similar. I get recommended more Contra and PhilosophyTube videos than alt right ones at this point

2019-08-28 21:36:53 UTC  

Im so sorry for that

2019-08-28 21:38:38 UTC  

I'm not level headed enough to watch breadtube shit, I get overheated and flustered

2019-08-28 21:41:06 UTC  

They also don't account for the content of the specific video commented on. For example, James Allsup makes a lot of general SJW Rekt type videos you could like without subscribing to his white nationalist views

2019-08-28 21:43:08 UTC  

I think the Golden One does bodybuilding videos

2019-08-28 22:06:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/616393073894883358/reject_humanity.png

2019-08-28 22:10:50 UTC  

I like pineapple on pizza, and you can't stop me... ha hahaha... Bahahahaha!

2019-08-28 22:11:03 UTC  

YAS BOI