Message from @Chet Nick
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Removing makeup did that.
Well i mean she looks pretty normal on the left
Oh ok makeup
Fuck. Why wammen always lying
Because two X chromosomes?
I had an argument with feminists recently because they passed a bill saying both parents need to sign off on an abortion
Then they said it was exactly what they were talking about when they were yelling about equal rights
I said I couldn't tell if they're arguing this is against equal rights or in favor for it
Because, taking away the killing of a child from onyo the mothers choice and giving the man a say in that action, that seemed pretty equal to me
Then I said, if you want to say men shouldn't have the decision of whether it lives or dies
Then give them the right to legally disown it if they don't want it
After all, they're just at risk of ending up in poverty over a child as a woman is
How about women don't murder their babies and men don't abandon them?
How about we just do that?
that requires cultural change
Good.
Then let's do that.
I've long used the example of Property Rights in abortion debates; "Okay, if the child is not a lifeform, then it is private property, and a woman who disposes of or destroys the private property of a man without his knowledge and consent can be legally liable. Abandoned property laws do not cover propety that is lost or abandoned for less than 1 year."
that takes around 10000x the effort as getting the described above law in place
They were like "well men abandon women after they get pregnant all the time"
I'm like, yeah, if you want to say a woman shouldn't have to take care of a child she doesn't want
I don't see why it wouldn't be an equal right for a man to have the same privilege
Okay? And the proposed law makes society 10,000× worse.
i would like it, if people did the proper and right thing, the thing is, people are shit, and the longer i live, the more sure i am of that, so i don't expect anything like that to spread
Maybe take the effort?
It's like, they really have a skewed vision of what equal rights is
In their eyes, it's only equal once women have more than men
>people are shit
Yeah... obviously. So use the state to crush that shit.
They're like "this is what we were talking about when we were saying we need equal rights"
I was like "Well, you realize this is what we're talking about when we say you don't want equal rights, you want women to be above men, right?"
The entire purpose of government in any form is to subdue the tendency of humans to act like fucking animals to an Earthly authority. @Avald
Yup.
Yap
...which is why AnCaps and most Libertarians sound stupid.
Anyone to the right of Thomas Jefferson sounds positively naïve.
Lol. Oh, are we doing the Shapiro meme on what the political right is?
Daily reminder: the original rightists were monarchists.
I mean, in literally the same exact post saying this was about equal rights I got a reply saying men DO NOT deserve equal rights
These people's worldview is incredibly distorted
You mean an acurate one? @Unironic Ohio Supremecist
@Chet Nick
Lol. No. Maybe crack a book sometime.
Right liberalism is not right wing. It's a centrist ideology.
I think the nebulous, spaghetti noodle "Left/Right" paradigm that you subscribe to makes about as much sense as Feminism.
i would agree with kevin, the reason that conservatism even supports it in the US is because of how that was the traditional stance
@Chet Nick
Lol. Wtf are you talking about?
"Ohhh! It's all a big cloud of perspectives! There's no real Left or Right!" Fuck off with that post-modernist bullshit. It goes 0-100%.
When the idea was coined in post Revolutionary France, the monarchists sat on the right, the revolutionaries on the left.
The idea that liberalism is far right is ahistorical smoothbrain shit.
National Socialism is Left-wing, and National Socialists always use Left-wing tactics in any debate; change my mind.