and swapping them to anything thicker basically makes the headphone sound even worse

but at 110 aud what is better the takstars?

which takstars

takstar 82

but whats an alternative to m40x

do you need isolation?

no

creative aurvana live

alright

the cheapest ones right

yeah not CAL 2

ok

why do the m40x get raving reviews then

people just dont know better?

shilled by zeos

all the reddit normies jumped on it

theyre not terrible sounding but theyre really not comfy

m50x/m40x both have some of the uncomfiest stock pads ive ever used

my issue with both of them in terms of sound is the really fatiguing and harsh midrange/treble and the awful compression

ah ok

i have these

http://au.pcmag.com/sennheiser-momentum-on-ear/718/review/sennheiser-momentum-on-ear

lol momentums

i swear the vivos are better

buti got it for cheap

to me all the review shites are frauds

giving these headphones 8-9/10s

its a 4/10

audio reviews almost universally suck

yeah

how do people even buy headphones if the reviews suck?

On a whim

test them in person

so finally

takpro 82 vs the CALs

Cals win?

havent heard the pro 82

ok

thanks m8

go to hek's house and test out the cals

yeah