Message from @Purple

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2019-12-12 00:23:39 UTC  

like 10 points in some cases

2019-12-12 00:23:47 UTC  

all educational gains made before highschool are lost

2019-12-12 00:23:53 UTC  

it doesn't last

2019-12-12 00:24:20 UTC  

and it's not raising G

2019-12-12 00:24:26 UTC  

that's the thing people don't understand

2019-12-12 00:24:41 UTC  

people get trained for the IQ tests and the other corellated tests so they do a bit better

2019-12-12 00:24:46 UTC  

but their G isn't really improved

2019-12-12 00:24:48 UTC  

once again

2019-12-12 00:25:21 UTC  

you know nothing about this if you think you can raise your G, because it's the one of the most well substantiated facts about G

2019-12-12 00:25:44 UTC  

This is one of the biggest things they learned from the Twin studies

2019-12-12 00:25:59 UTC  

adopted twins had the IQs of their biological parents not that of their foster parents

2019-12-12 00:26:25 UTC  

It takes generations of breeding to increase IQ

2019-12-12 00:26:30 UTC  

and we're doing the opposite

2019-12-12 00:27:18 UTC  

The other things they've learned from the twin studies and separated twins is how they share so much in behavior and IQ

2019-12-12 00:27:54 UTC  

"weird we have the same favorite colors, the same favorite movies, we have the same OCD, we like the same clothes, we have the same voting history"

2019-12-12 00:27:56 UTC  

WOW WEIRD

2019-12-12 00:28:00 UTC  

must be enviornment right?

2019-12-12 00:28:03 UTC  

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2019-12-12 00:28:46 UTC  

Europe spend hundreds of years executing anyone who had any tendency towards violence or breaking the social norms, but that has nothing to do with why whites are generally less violent!

2019-12-12 00:28:51 UTC  

I'ts just *environment*

2019-12-12 00:28:54 UTC  

I have a theory to pitch to you. I believe that one of the reasons that Jewish people and Asians, particularly japanese people succeed more often due to literature being a more prominent thing in their lives. Jews literally learn a second language just to come of "age" which must be beneficial developmentally

2019-12-12 00:29:40 UTC  

Your theory doesn't matter because G already explains it

2019-12-12 00:29:45 UTC  

once again

2019-12-12 00:29:51 UTC  

Twin studies already disprove what you're saying

2019-12-12 00:30:19 UTC  

yes IQ is just one factor, and work ethic and other things are involved

2019-12-12 00:30:26 UTC  

you don't think these things being tradition through generations is beneficial?

2019-12-12 00:30:33 UTC  

but without high enough IQ and correlate G then you're not even getting off the ground

2019-12-12 00:31:01 UTC  

I think you don't understand how what you're saying is just more arugments for it being genetic

2019-12-12 00:31:25 UTC  

even if you say this has been their cultural norm for generations, then to succeed in their community you needed a certain IQ, if not you failed to come of age

2019-12-12 00:31:33 UTC  

therefore you fail to reproduce and have a family

2019-12-12 00:31:51 UTC  

therefore it selects for people who are predisposed towards higher IQ

2019-12-12 00:32:06 UTC  

either way your "thought experiment" doesn't disprove that it's not genetic

2019-12-12 00:32:15 UTC  

if anything it just adds another social factor that selects for intelligence

2019-12-12 00:33:06 UTC  

I'll concede that there is a genetic disposition in that regard but I think tradition and values reinforce it. If you put someone who was born with those "genetic values" they would corrupt completely

2019-12-12 00:33:31 UTC  

"genetic values" 🤤

2019-12-12 00:33:51 UTC  

whoops, if you put someone who was born with those "genetic values" somewhere bad, they would corrupt completely

2019-12-12 00:34:12 UTC  

It doesn't matter what you try to call it, it's very well substantiated that your IQ will be close to your parents.

2019-12-12 00:34:18 UTC  

What you're saying is just not true

2019-12-12 00:34:27 UTC  

Them being in a shitty society assuming they're not eating lead

2019-12-12 00:34:32 UTC  

will not make them have a lower G

2019-12-12 00:34:36 UTC  

environmental factors can influence gene expression