Message from @Catboi

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2019-12-15 22:07:09 UTC  

"whites" or in this case earth have gone all over plundering any sort of capital they can find regardless of the human cost.

2019-12-15 22:07:28 UTC  

Is there honestly TV worth watching at this point?

2019-12-15 22:07:32 UTC  

The people on the belt, would really be like oil rig workers or something or any other dangerous but well paying job.

2019-12-15 22:07:49 UTC  

But in the books and the show they're literally a subspecies

2019-12-15 22:08:04 UTC  

"adapted to low g"

2019-12-15 22:08:40 UTC  

Man, it makes the premise even more racist if you think about it in terms of Abrahams TDS and his rantings about racist trump

2019-12-15 22:09:01 UTC  

It's it pretty racist to make an allegory about PoC on earth and make them literally a different species 🤔

2019-12-15 22:09:28 UTC  

We're reaching the final stage of woke

2019-12-15 22:09:43 UTC  

The belters are also shown as being kind like back water meth addicts, but if you take two seconds to think about what living in space would be like

2019-12-15 22:09:49 UTC  

everyone would probably be pretty smart

2019-12-15 22:10:11 UTC  

they'd have to be to be able to help fix and figure out how to fix anything that went wrong, even if it's to a lesser degree than with modern astronauts

2019-12-15 22:10:28 UTC  

it would still have to be above average intelligence people overall to maintain everything.

2019-12-15 22:11:51 UTC  

@Beemann oh and everyon on earth is on Welfare basically

2019-12-15 22:13:30 UTC  

Lel

2019-12-15 22:13:58 UTC  

Fucking terran welfare queens

2019-12-15 22:15:51 UTC  

There's a china 1 child policy too

2019-12-15 22:16:50 UTC  

Yeah I barely watch anything at this point and hadn't read the books
Of course there is

Been watching The Boys but I like the comic better tbh. About halfway through both (S1 and the core comic series)

2019-12-15 22:17:13 UTC  

I reallyd did and still enjoy the first couple books

2019-12-15 22:17:29 UTC  

they go out of their way to hint at muslims in space too, like newsladies in Hijabs and shit

2019-12-15 22:17:47 UTC  

Also it bothers me that Simon Pegg is in the show but not as Hughie. He looks just like him

Ah, starts good but goes down the shitter or what?

2019-12-15 22:17:50 UTC  

I'm not sure if this affects my opinions on the first 2 books or not cause the story is good

2019-12-15 22:18:41 UTC  

But one of the Authors, it's a two author team under a psuedonym, has had multiple melt downs that have been recorded complaining about "conservatives", Republicans, and Trump

2019-12-15 22:19:04 UTC  

The other author just cringes Ty Frank

2019-12-15 22:19:30 UTC  

But, a lot of these set pieces in the worldbuilding actually make me realise it's how someone like Daniel Abraham sees the real world

2019-12-15 22:20:22 UTC  

They view it as inevitable that we'll have to have UBI, that anytime people move into new places they're oppressing the people there workers or otherwise. Etc

2019-12-15 22:21:03 UTC  

The whole main plot point is the tension between the belters, and Earth and Mars because the belters are "oppressed and exploited"

2019-12-15 22:21:59 UTC  

There's like a little detective murder mystery story in the first book that's still very good though, And the second book ties everything off, but there are like 8 books now.

2019-12-15 22:22:57 UTC  

That reminds me - I need to finish the Southern Reach and Sprawl trilogies

2019-12-15 22:23:24 UTC  

Might have to check out the first two Expanse books though. It at least sounds interesting if not terribly agreeable

2019-12-15 22:23:26 UTC  

VanderMeer is definitely a shitlib too

2019-12-15 22:23:43 UTC  

There's nothing too terrible about the first few books TBH

2019-12-15 22:24:05 UTC  

Gibson lives in Vancouver apparently so I'd assume he fits in politically overall

2019-12-15 22:24:09 UTC  

It's just noticing that one of the authors is a crazy shitlib who hates trump

2019-12-15 22:24:16 UTC  

Ah

2019-12-15 22:24:20 UTC  

and their whole thing is like the colonial opression narrative

2019-12-15 22:24:28 UTC  

That's basically what happened to the "Belters"

2019-12-15 22:24:51 UTC  

I kinda want a story that does the 50/50

2019-12-15 22:25:00 UTC  

even though if you look at any sort of group that would be like that in the real world, they'd all have gotten well off at worst, and damn rich at best

2019-12-15 22:25:13 UTC  

There's some corporate conspiracy stuff too

2019-12-15 22:25:22 UTC  

I'm making it sound more flat than it is, but it's definitely there

2019-12-15 22:25:28 UTC  

Earth is portrayed not so great with UBI