I liked how in 2 I often was left wondering what else I could have done, I didn't feel that as often in 1, but 1 had a rock star story

Two went out of the way to make the decisions you made sometimes feel pointless

Really? Why do you say that?

One of the big themes of the game was how you try to do the right thing but even when you do the right thing bad things could cause it in the end

Sure but I dont think in general it was too bad

I felt it went a little overboard with it

I was also younger when I played it

I might enjoy it now more.

The game definitely made it clear you closed off paths by being a Good Jedi

You couldn’t please everyone while being good in that game

Yeah and a lot of the bad guys were not just Black Knight pyschos.

There were legitimately clever intelligent people who would be pissed if you were just good, which I remember blowing my mind

It was the same the other way around but that makes sense

I started a Darkside play through at one point and everybody was wondering why I was such a terrible person

My character already started to look like late game Palpatine in middle of the second area

What is your favorite "be evil" game?

Let me think...

Mario Party

Yeah the

Yeah the complex morality expressed in that game, especially the Pipe Pipe Spinner Pipe mini game really expresses some of the nuanced desires of man vs the platonic ideal.

Yes yes

That and racing games

Fuck those coin grabbing mother fuckers.

Plus any game I can beat up Jar Jar in is a good game

LEGO Star Wars

I MEANT

Is I think Mass Effect did renegade great.

Some games, like the first KOTOR, evil side just felt like a random chaotic force of destruction with no goal.

^

I’m Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the Citadel

honestly, binary moral choice systems are sort of a mistake, and lead to a fucked up incentive structure if the devs create a moral grey area. They also lead to dumb cheese. Fallout 3 is an excellent example of both of these

Isn't Fallout 3 an excellent example of just bad choices in general though?

My favorite grey games are Mass Effect 2 or New Vegas.

sure, but there's some especially bad ones re: moral choice

honestly ME2 fell into the puppy kicking spastic vs everyone is happy scenarios quite often as well

Say whaaaat

but the one that will always stand out to me as completely retarded is FO3's The Pitt DLC, in which you have to choose between two untrustworthy factions, one of which involves kidnapping and human experimentation, and the other that involves slavery

but slavery bad, so if you dont trust the former slaver turned revolutionary leader, who the writing *does not support* as being a reliable/trustworthy individual, MAXIMUM EBIL POINTS

Well I mean like

Fallout 3

I like Mass Effect 2 where some evil choices are being a tough James Bond vs a diplomat.