I don't think I've ever seen Till fight, TBH.

I should.

He had a bad skid running into masvidal and Woodley, beat gastelum at middle weight though

I'm currently watch Fury/Wilder 1. Man, Fury got robbed.

Yeah, Wilder knocked him down twice... Fury still answered the count both times, and kept out boxing him.

Fury won that, fuck those judges

Here's what happens when you have a guy who is all technique, little power (as you pointed out), vs a guy who is all power, and little technique.

Not saying Wilder is a bad boxer, cause he's not, but he isn't the most technical fighter I've ever seen.

He's a left hook and a BIG right hand

Fucking killer cardio though. To be throwing those big shots the entire fight and not gas out is very impressive.

That's always been Conor's big weakness.

If he can't starch you in the first two rounds, he's kinds fucked.

The outlier being Holloway, and Diaz 2.

He's like 204 lbs

Quick twitch guys usually have shit cardio

Or their technique suffers

214.95, as of his last weigh-in.

Yeah, he's lighter than I thought.

Fury has like 20lbs on him. lol

However, at that weight, 20lbs isn't as big a deal.

No fat

Fury is King Dad Bod...

lol

It would be in mma, especially grappling

Fucking 20 lbs is a huge difference until you're talking sumo.

I'd agree, and this may be an outlier, but Velasquez was quite a bit smaller than Lesnar.

Lesnar was a shitty fighter who got by on sheer power, but still.

Sea level Cain had insane cardio too

Out worked him

I mean, the dude couldn't beat Mark Hunt with jucing himself to the gills... So you know, take that for what it's worth.

lol

Lesnar, I mean.

I'm not saying Hunt is a bad fighter or anything. Just that Lesnar had to pull the Ole Bones Jones routine to win.

He might've been great if he started with mma back in the day instead of football/wrestling

That's what I've alwasy said.

Pictograms

Pico

Good as a college wrestler that he was, and his sheer genetic gifts, he could have been the greatest heavyweight in MMA history.

Probably

Fedor was special tho

As for Jonny Bones, I'm with Schaub on him. Give him and everyone else all the same drugs, make them all fight 100% clean, doesn't matter. Jones still beats everyone.