Message from @tomhastherage

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2019-07-21 01:37:03 UTC  

you're ultimately trying to do something that pleases the majority

2019-07-21 01:37:12 UTC  

but without the majority directly contributing

2019-07-21 01:37:12 UTC  

they i guess capitalism is indirect demcracy

2019-07-21 01:37:48 UTC  

Kinda, yeah. You vote for the favorite product with your wallet, the companies try to win your wallet.

2019-07-21 01:37:53 UTC  

the process of markets could be argued to be democratic, in a sense. However not all "votes" are "equal" in trade

2019-07-21 01:38:18 UTC  

so its good enough for our money but not good enough for our govt?

2019-07-21 01:38:58 UTC  

why would all votes be equal?

2019-07-21 01:39:01 UTC  

thats silly

2019-07-21 01:39:12 UTC  

some people hold more stock

2019-07-21 01:39:19 UTC  

or invest more

2019-07-21 01:39:53 UTC  

Because then you get into monopolies where a bunch of rich people get to decide everything and once again the poor get shit on.

2019-07-21 01:40:06 UTC  

Let me guess

2019-07-21 01:40:11 UTC  

“Social darwinism”

2019-07-21 01:40:29 UTC  

the poor get shit on?

2019-07-21 01:40:42 UTC  

in capitalism?

2019-07-21 01:40:46 UTC  

are you joking?

2019-07-21 01:41:10 UTC  

our poor are the best poor. way better than anyone else

2019-07-21 01:41:12 UTC  

your proposal was dealing with voting with one's feet though

2019-07-21 01:41:13 UTC  

ask anyone

2019-07-21 01:41:15 UTC  

No. In a government, if your suggesting people should have more say than others based on wealth.

2019-07-21 01:41:33 UTC  

nobody has any say

2019-07-21 01:41:39 UTC  

unless they are a shareholder

2019-07-21 01:41:46 UTC  

its a bussiness

2019-07-21 01:42:01 UTC  

the bussiness is providing govt services

2019-07-21 01:42:07 UTC  

business*

2019-07-21 01:42:20 UTC  

if you dont like you dont buy

2019-07-21 01:42:58 UTC  

if the business loses too many customers/residents it fails

2019-07-21 01:43:07 UTC  

and a new one starts to fill the market gap

2019-07-21 01:43:14 UTC  

Yes and if your a shareholder, your part of the country. If everyone in a country is a shareholder, and not all shares are equal

2019-07-21 01:43:15 UTC  

idelly

2019-07-21 01:43:42 UTC  

no anybody can own shares if they buy them

2019-07-21 01:43:53 UTC  

you dont have to live in the country

2019-07-21 01:44:18 UTC  

probably better if you dont. avoids conflicts of interest

2019-07-21 01:44:27 UTC  

Your dealing with masses of living space, not products though. You can’t just go out and make your own country because other people live there and as such have their own society.

2019-07-21 01:44:32 UTC  

Unless you have an army.

2019-07-21 01:44:42 UTC  

obviously youd have an army

2019-07-21 01:44:51 UTC  

probably lots of drones etc

2019-07-21 01:45:27 UTC  

If your a person and don’t like the system you say “get out make your own”

2019-07-21 01:45:31 UTC  

as for the transition to this new system, thats a different story

2019-07-21 01:45:50 UTC  

im talking about the new system itself

2019-07-21 01:46:34 UTC  

say detroit finally gives up pretending to be a real city