Utility in terms of what though

Society benefit? Individual benefit?

That's still too broad

Oh look. SciShow released a vid called "There are More Than Two Human Sexes"
I'm prejudicial to it already.

>marriage and parenthood is a consistent predictor of success
>married parents report highest satisfaction ratings
And then there's, you know, the baseline biological reality of it all

Kuja, I think you are stuck on the term utility as though it only comes from utilitarianism.

Anyone in the debate voice channel? It's really quiet for me

In order to argue the utility of a set of morals, you *have* to argue the goal of the morals. A part of that *is* arguing who does and should benefit from said morals.

@warmwaffles Try relaunching discord

Lots of chat in the Debate VC

lemme just reboot, probably something fucky in my linux

figured it out, `WEBRTC VoiceEngine`

Pius and Find debated God earlier.
Fond let us unbelievers and damned (I'm the later) down, and hard.

Paranoid -- But probably not so paranoid thought -- YT has been planning to bury videos that show motherhood in a positive light to outflank the trads

Anybody have the audio of the debate?

I believe this is it - https://dlive.tv/p/dlive-49353702+gw8zvE1ZR

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Be warned it's rather underwhelming

The discussion on the debate channel by the audience afterwards was much more productive... but that of course, isn't on the recording

The audio from the guy on camera doesn't work

Hey, does anyone know if Matt and Blonde still consider themselves pro-choice? I haven't heard them mention it in a while, and I know Matt was starting to become much more sympathetic to the pro-life side.

I'd kinda like to try my hand at changing their minds on the call-in show one evening if they are

I don't think either of them are pro-choice

Hmm, I swear I thought I'd heard them both admit to it on one of their podcast episodes....

I suppose I could email Matt and ask him

Yeah, Blonde is pro-life. Matt was pro-choice but with the increasing amount of pro-choice shenagigans from leftists he started to rethink it

Tbh association is a poor reason to pick one or the other

All of my PL arguments have come from just natural examination of PC positions

And with the artificial womb on the horizon theres nothing I can see in the PC bucket that isn't horrifying

@Legalize , what do you think about CA's attempt to get rid of plastic pens and instead manufacture paper pens.

Everyone will be using paper pens in a year or so

>paper pens
So like, pencils?

pencils are wood

Paper is also wood, typically

I assume theyre not using rice paper

Like paper straws, tightly wrapped paper

BTW: I'm making this up as a joke

The issue is Cali will probably do it

heh true

Pen and the selection of such is a basic human right..