Message from @Catboi

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2019-11-18 07:31:11 UTC  

so even in that case it's a dumb comment.

2019-11-18 07:31:29 UTC  

Was is stocks. I thoght enron was taxes and martha stewert was sec

2019-11-18 07:31:36 UTC  

It's like saying the Chicago Police arrested one man for murder so there's not a crime problem.

2019-11-18 07:35:15 UTC  

Scandal of crashed company's tax evasion | Business | The ...
Search domain www.theguardian.com/business/2003/feb/14/corporatefraud.enron1https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/feb/14/corporatefraud.enron1
Feb 13, 2003Scandal of crashed company's tax evasion. The three volume report was also critical of deferred compensation plans for executives used widely to avoid tax. It noted in passing that Enron had paid $53m (£32m) in previously deferred compensation to top executives in the weeks before it went bankrupt.

2019-11-18 07:35:31 UTC  

I don't know how to respond without sounding like a complete asshole. But IRS, SEC, FDA, doesn't really matter the realities of these organizations always tends to be similar. Ever Broadened Scope.

2019-11-18 07:35:54 UTC  

Some people will get caught, but the behavior remains widespread regardless.

2019-11-18 07:37:47 UTC  

This article was written by an idiot

2019-11-18 07:37:52 UTC  

they weren't caught on tax evasion

2019-11-18 07:38:05 UTC  

The financial accounting rules weren't as strict

2019-11-18 07:38:23 UTC  

A lot of the shit they were doing besides outright fabricating the numbers wasn't really illegal

2019-11-18 07:39:09 UTC  

That's why Sarbanes-Oxley exists.

2019-11-18 07:39:15 UTC  

Enron Exec Pleads Guilty to Tax Evasion - Los Angeles Times
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-nov-27-fi-enron27-story.html
Nov 27, 2002
The tax-evasion charge stems from a 1997 deal to sell wind farms Enron owned in California. Larry Lawyer, 34, became the fourth person federal prosecutors have secured a guilty plea in their probe ...

2019-11-18 07:39:41 UTC  

Notice how it says Exec

2019-11-18 07:41:11 UTC  

The point you were saying is the IRS barely enforces laws.
Clearly they do

2019-11-18 07:41:39 UTC  

Yeah, and clearly the Chicago PD have stopped all gun violence becauset they arrested some people this weekend.

2019-11-18 07:42:23 UTC  

It's baffling to me that you clearly don't really know the details about the Enron situation, but are still trying to use it to support some sort of riposte.

2019-11-18 07:42:44 UTC  

If I asked you what's the difference between the FTC and the SEC you'd have to google it I'm sure.

2019-11-18 07:42:44 UTC  

I would venture to say there are more then just this one tax fraud issue

2019-11-18 07:43:11 UTC  

You know the IRS doesn't really check everyone's taxes right?

2019-11-18 07:43:22 UTC  

You know incorporated businesses file quarterly right?

2019-11-18 07:43:45 UTC  

If the company hadn't done things so badly they failed, they wouldn't have been "caught"

2019-11-18 07:43:55 UTC  

I'm not an economist. I know ones the trade commotion the others security's and exchange (stocks)

2019-11-18 07:44:18 UTC  

Economists don't know shit anyway, and you don't have to be an economist to know about regulatory agencies.

2019-11-18 07:44:26 UTC  

Or the history of Enron

2019-11-18 07:44:49 UTC  

I might as well google the instances of hate crimes to prove how white supremecy is on the rise.

2019-11-18 07:45:02 UTC  

That's your kind of logic when it comes to my criticisms of the regulatory agencies.

2019-11-18 07:47:29 UTC  

less than 10% of these bi g companies get audited, and it's not like it's random.

2019-11-18 07:47:57 UTC  

Whole reason Enron got targeted is they were supposed to be worth so much money and they went bankrupt. They didn't punish them until it was already too late.

2019-11-18 07:48:37 UTC  

This is DESPITE THE FACT that employees and other people in the industry had made reports and gone to the SEC offices in person to warm about the fuckery.

2019-11-18 07:50:10 UTC  

Anyway, arguing about shit that doesn't matter at this point anyway. You can believe regulatory agencies are effective if you want.

2019-11-18 07:50:27 UTC  

Look, you said the irs had no teeth, I gave you an example of the irs taking a company down. That's it, I'm not saying some places get away with fraud. I'm just saying they have teeth

2019-11-18 07:51:15 UTC  

and the Chicago PD have Teeth too

2019-11-18 07:52:11 UTC  

I suppose they do

2019-11-18 07:52:35 UTC  

I bet you don't even use Emacs

2019-11-18 07:53:26 UTC  

No, I don't

2019-11-18 12:29:41 UTC  

This idea of capping income at 150k would potentially really fuck over sole proprietorships, which do not file taxes separately from the personal taxes of the owner.

2019-11-18 12:29:58 UTC  

You are basically saying that sole proprietorships cannot make more than 150k

2019-11-18 13:18:01 UTC  

Unless there's specific reasons it's so cheap and easy to make an LLC now

2019-11-18 13:18:30 UTC  

The idea of a cap is retarded because it won't fix the actual problem

2019-11-18 13:19:05 UTC  

and it's retarded since as I pointed out already. There's not going to be enforcement.

2019-11-18 13:23:37 UTC  

If people had any idea of the kind of law breaking all the financial services companies get up to there'd be Hong Kong style riots. The big 4 are a fucking joke in terms of compliance.