Apparently there were also times when Muhammad preached peace and tolerance. Those times coincide with points where he was weak and/or at the mercy of others, and muslim scholars have ruled that those sections can be ignored in favor of the 'convert or die' parts.

It's Mecca vs Medina. Basically, his rise to power was more peaceful, but when he seized power he became ruthless.

Scholars state that the newer verses supersede any previous versions. It's not a contradiction, but rather a part of "the plan"

@JoJo, Kомик Tell that to @PiusXIII supposed priest who wants to beat people he disagrees with

Huh?

He says Jesus liked to use violence @JoJo, Kомик

What's the evidence?

I mean in all fairness an eternity of conscious torture in fire for anyone that rejects his message seems a tad violent

I don't think Jesus ever said that though
It was mostly his followers saying that

Phew, I was worried for a second there

Lol

Just saying, it doesn't detract from my statement

Wouldn't you say though, that both Jesus and Muhammad, either implicitly or overtly, essentially said that to go against them was to go against God?

Unless we're just gonna view both as rather eccentric dudes from history

Muhammed literally told his followers to kill people that didn't follow him
And also killed people himself
That's a large distinction from preaching peace
I also don't think Jesus ever said anything similar to that going against him meant going against God
I can't think of any examples off the top of my head of Jesus condemning someone simply for disagreeing with him
I mean, I guess you could say that he said being a bad person could be interpreted as "going against him"

So if I just don't think that his message makes much sense and I decide to take a pass, there's no consequences for that?

I don't think it matters either way
I don't think Jesus himself ever said much about you burning in hell for going against his teachings
Like I said, it was mostly his followers after his death preacher that
And mostly a few hundred years after they were all dead

I've very happy to hear that, I wish more religious people were like you

Thanks buddy haha

@Annafenza
Lol. So you wish more religious people thought it was just great to be an awful degenerate? Protip fam: anyone who thinks that isn't religious.

Also, interesting tag number you have there.

I didn't get the impression that he thinks that at all, must have missed something

seems like a pretty reasonable person to me

Lol

@JoJo, Kомик is a *judeo*Christian

@Annafenza
But I didn't comment on his reasonableness at all. Bringing up an utter non sequitur like that is remarkably dishonest.

That being said... praising the reasonableness of someone who consistently calls themselves a troll while getting so enraged by people having differing opinions that they have to go on a block spree is not the best look.

But you do you.

>good look

>you do you

🤔

are these cat lady and soy boy dog whistles?

So you genuinely are illiterate?

Lol

@Unironic Ohio Supremecist You've kinda lost me. You originally rephrased my entire exchange with that dude as "wishing more religious people thought it was just great to be an awful degenerate". Then you say I'm being remarkably dishonest? If you're just trolling me for a laugh that's cool but I honestly can't tell.

So Jojo spent a good amount of time misrepresenting scripture to suggest that Christ was some sort of spiritual lolberg. As if his message were "sinning is bad, but go and head and do whatever you want."

@Unironic Ohio Supremecist do you decorate for Christmas?

Putting aside how laughably wrong that is, you ended that conversation by wishing more religious people shared that idea that divine laws were mere suggestions rather than commandments.

Yeah, like the don't rape kids one, oh wait that's not a commandment

@>is beer#9493
Really? You're going to do >muh Saturnalia?

so it's okay