you guys know that it was the government that didn't allow the turkish ministers to come in right?

Haha

@ moon, yes, of course they did, they had to

also, fun fact, the mayor of rotterdam has turkish background and he was also against the ministers coming

They didn't want the Muslims rioting just before the election. It woukd have helped the PVV

there's still hope i guess

basically the VVD took the best of PVV's stuff,,, now we have to see if they will actually adopt any anti-immigrant policies

but his quote was that ' the wrong kind of populism won in AMerican and the UK' so i doubt that will happen

Bait and switch politics

yup

i like muslims rioting

we need more of that

so we can kick them out

It doesn't matter. Unless Islam suddenly reforms, the people will eventually get sick of it

the exit polls indicated that 50%+ of dutch want to leave the EU

also 80% of the voting pop voted

ya, the dutch love their politics

the last time that happened was 30 ago

they had to close polls late because of the huge queues

the trick now is to convince the younger generation that 'diversity is strength' and so-called green policies really don't work

Islam reform can take centuries, it took a long time in Europe for Christianity to change.

Can we wait and SURVIVE that kind of chaos?

the dutch are actually vary sensitive to global warming

because it can flood their country 😛

of course, their main urban centres are actually below sea level

if you ever go there, go to a 'coffie shop'

im 30min from amsterdam

The West is actually impeding reform by drawing all these false equivalencies between itself and the Middle East. Islam won't change if we make it immune to criticism.

and they look at you weird if you order a coffee at a coffe shop 😄

cool Moon, i was in Groningen 1 summer for a research project

and can you pronounce that right? 😛

hard GGGGGGG

i am Dutch-Canadian 😉

the dutch give flowers to canada

i wanted to get on the talk show tonight so i could tell them how to pronunce Geert's name!

every year

ahah exactly

ya, we f'n love each other

it's a symbolic thank you for canada helping them during ww2

Germanic Languages are not my specialty.

I have no idea how to get his first name right. It's like Yeert but gutteral