Idk what ya'll are talking about, but yes. Never aplogize about anything

This whole situation was bad enough with Starbucks doing the whole " racial unbiasing " BS

Rather than even getting into the whole "apology" discussion, force anyone who thinks you own them one to explain exactly what you did wrong.

Then watch them stumble trying to explain why you should apologize.

@@TheInquirer the Philly police commissioner apologized to the guys who got booted from starbucks

about a whole ten min statement and they have changed their policy just because of this ONE Starbucks incident

link me your channel in dm, wyatt. I'll totally do follow for follow

And now it's to late to back out they won

@Saint damn, that's fucked up.

@J Edgar i will send you a dm of my channel link...you have one too?

@TheInquirer I know

I can't condone with the commissioner said because I myself would have kicked them out. I work in the service industry myself and I don't take shit from anybody if you're not buying I don't care who you are you get the hell out.

Same here I work in convenience store if you aren't making a purchase then leave it's about a businesses right to refuse

The problem is that Starbucks has essentially been too permissive with this in the past. That news lady on MSNBC was right, it is normal for women in yoga pants to sit in starbucks all day, use the wifi, restroom, and couches, and never pay for a thing.

There are different standards, but it's not racism.

This is true they don't need the training BS they need to fix their standard and refuse service those who are not patrons of the business

@Jeremy-Retard Jerem, that's true. I've done it myself lol

But, evennif they were being racist, idc. They are allowed to be in my book.

@TheInquirer the beauty of a free market

Right

If you don't like the policy then choose another business

I agree that freedom of association is more important than anything. But unfortunately we have SCOTUS decisions and civil-rights-era legislation that convinces people that businesses cannot discriminate in any way.

In order to go the right direction on this, we kind of have to undo the notion that private businesses cannot discriminate.

Yeah I agree

I agree. But it could never happen. Whatever cabal is runnung the show in our government is hell bent on amassing a mixxed race population.

Any legislation that hinders that goal will not be tolerated. This is post national (in terms of nations of people and government) America.

Ironically this is only causing further pillarization

political groups become more distant, regardless of how closely they may adhere to the same solutions to the same problems

which then leads to talks (however empty) of secession and balkanization. The "policy of unity" leading to its opposite
But I like to think that's just because people can detect commies pretty well now

I agree. I think a nation (of similar culture and genealogy) of people must govern themselves. Post 1970 America is treading thin ice.

It's hard not get pulled into that perspective. It's getting harder and harder every day for me

Don't let my tangent stop the conversation. You all were talking about this police commissioner and apologizing....?

culture yes, I dont care about ethnicity. Like I was saying in another channel, I've had Fijians and Asians argue more strongly for Western culture than other Westerners

I said all I have to say on that bottom line never apologize

Unfortunately and fortunately matters to me.

I'm sorry man that just doesn't sound right to me I've met foreign students and stuff especially Chinese students that argue against western culture more often than not

I have the opposite experience, most of the asians I know are quite aware of how much better the U.S. is, despite it's glaring faults.

Maybe that's just my limited experience showing

If you need some Yellow fever, I am communicable.

There was a post-doc in my lab in college who was a Chinese national. His english was horrendous, but you could have a conversation with him. He definitely thought the entire CCP was a disaster, and that the U.S. was far better.

Yeah all the guys and gals I talked to were going back to work for corporations in their home country so that might be the issue