Yeah I agree

I agree. But it could never happen. Whatever cabal is runnung the show in our government is hell bent on amassing a mixxed race population.

Any legislation that hinders that goal will not be tolerated. This is post national (in terms of nations of people and government) America.

Ironically this is only causing further pillarization

political groups become more distant, regardless of how closely they may adhere to the same solutions to the same problems

which then leads to talks (however empty) of secession and balkanization. The "policy of unity" leading to its opposite
But I like to think that's just because people can detect commies pretty well now

I agree. I think a nation (of similar culture and genealogy) of people must govern themselves. Post 1970 America is treading thin ice.

It's hard not get pulled into that perspective. It's getting harder and harder every day for me

Don't let my tangent stop the conversation. You all were talking about this police commissioner and apologizing....?

culture yes, I dont care about ethnicity. Like I was saying in another channel, I've had Fijians and Asians argue more strongly for Western culture than other Westerners

I said all I have to say on that bottom line never apologize

Unfortunately and fortunately matters to me.

I'm sorry man that just doesn't sound right to me I've met foreign students and stuff especially Chinese students that argue against western culture more often than not

I have the opposite experience, most of the asians I know are quite aware of how much better the U.S. is, despite it's glaring faults.

Maybe that's just my limited experience showing

If you need some Yellow fever, I am communicable.

There was a post-doc in my lab in college who was a Chinese national. His english was horrendous, but you could have a conversation with him. He definitely thought the entire CCP was a disaster, and that the U.S. was far better.

Yeah all the guys and gals I talked to were going back to work for corporations in their home country so that might be the issue

The way American companies outsource workers is truly capitialistic, but it's also terrible for Americans. I'd rather have companies be loyal to Americans, invest in our education rathet than outsource. Otherwise, what's the point

At my university, 70% of the students were "international" which means anything but White kids. Fuck that

The only reason outsourcing is profitable is because the U.S. does not defend its currency. If the U.S. had openly acknowledged that China and other countries were engaging in currency manipulation, and taken steps to combat it, most of the outsourcing of jobs would have never happened.

Now, there's a tradeoff there too, other countries would not have industrialized so fast, China would still be agrarian.

It's hard to say if it would have been better to play capitalism straight and defended a stable currency market than a manipulatable one.. but at this point I think it's clear that it's time for China to face the consequences of it's long-term economic warfare against the U.S.

Tbh I don't understand anything about how currencies work.

Its simpler than you might think

Imagine you have a country that is really good at making Cars, they make and sell a lot of them to a second country. The second country can only grow food, and it's really easy to do it, so much so that there's far more excess food in the world than cars.

Now, in order for those two countries to trade fairly, they have to essentially only trade equal value (whatever everyone feels the fair price of each is) of each of their "stuff"

But in practice, this never happens, right? I mean, you can't have the U.S. saying, "No, we've imported enough German cars this year, we can't import any more or else you Germans will be giving us more value in cars than we gave you in food."

Because then you'd have shortages of imported goods, artificially made by laws.

So instead, national currencies are supposed to make up for this difference in value traded.

In some "ideal system" national currencies would always float relative to each other such that if we imported too many German cars one year, instead of simply stopping all imports of cars from Germany, the value of our currency would go down just a little bit when compared to Germany's currency. The imbalance in currency value ideally should reflect trade imbalances.

However... that doesn't happen either, and really can't as long as humans are in charge of currencies.

Because you'll always have some country where one person has total power, and he/she will want to take advantage by artificially manipulating their currency (by simply printing more) and in so doing control it's value such that you can make it cheaper to manufacture goods in your nation in some kind of "permanent" way.

This is essentially what China did, they pegged their currency against the dollar instead of letting it float, and they performed whatever currency purchases on the open markets as they needed to keep it there. They still do this to this day.

In this way, Chinese goods were always made cheaper than if they were manufactured in the U.S., they've done this for decades.

They're definitely not the only country doing this, which is why the U.S. has a problem, much like Starbucks. Japan (our friends) have been allowed to do this for a long time (not so much pegging their currency, but certainly manipulating it).

There's other things that complicate this, like military spending.

I'm super behind but the up tick in outsourcing happen way back in the 90s

Late 80s

Actually earlier than that. Automobile manufacturing started to go to the Japanese in the 70s

Thanks for explaining that, I never did understand currency myself