The American system first applied this to Native Americans then they applied it to white Americans after they settled here and then now today we implement the same system on new natives we don't allow them to form their own told you they basically just have a super watered-down piece of shit culture that is just movies and television and bars

No no no White America is an indigenous culture of North America because we North America by force we basically Droid estimated killed all of the Native we effectively replace the natives with ourselves and if somebody wants to try the same thing for us I'm all for it

so then you're all for open borders :^)

No it's not you could European culture an indigenous culture but only in europe

Say euro*

Let me clean up that comment European Americans settle expanded colonized then Concord North America after we did that we implemented a genocide on the native effectively replacing the old natives with European people that is the reality of the world that we live in today. If no one can except that I'm sorry but you're living in a fantasy world

And even then, it's nearly impossible to trace the indigenous culture there, because all five major tribes of people have ruled that continent at one point or another

Concord = conquered

but if they decided to murder you and/or drive you out to form the Native ethnostate that's morally justified right?

By his reasoning yes

@Beemann has a point there.

and if you listen to the more extreme members of the black and other minority communities, that's exactly the intention. The elimination of the white race and the appropriation of all their lands

The Black Panthers have a very interesting speech they could tell you about that if you're curious about the next mass migration

And that right there if it were to happen would be the only way I could take up the ethno position

If we became so divide that I had no choice

Yo bee let me ask you something

hm?

but the reality is that this country was not intended to be a white ethnostate for only Europeans, whatever you want to use to specify that

this was a place where people who felt oppressed by the government, and forced to practice one religion or another because of said governments, came so they could just do what they wanted

Do you think the US would back British revolutionaries

?

like against the Orwellian shithole? On a government level probably not

but I bet there'd be volunteers

Oh I would be the first to hop on a boat but on government level I think you're right

that would be a really hard one to call

when two of your allies go to war, which ally do you back??

I talked about it last Wednesday but ya know 2 minutes and all

I don't even get two minutes, archer

UK government is friendly with the 'States, especially now with the whole Syria thing. I doubt they'd risk that

Who ever would be the most beneficial

Answering J

That is my position bee. If ya got anything else message me tomorrow both of you I enjoyed the conversation even if it was a little bit tedious and ya know....

sounds good

I suspect we'll get a better conversation on the ethnostate when he's not tired and/or possibly drunk while being forced to use an awkward text input system

I hope so he was almost incoherent at certain points

Just realized I have Matt's Starbucks 'Victims' vid open in another tab and I caught some nice stonerface on the paused frame

J Edgar, your 3rd to last comment is a popular perspective, but it's just not true. The authors of the Federalist Papers, Madison, Adams, and Jay (I believe) even wrote about how the success of America would come from the fact that all the American Nation of people is intended to be and would be of the European stock. The founding fathers chose them because they themselves were European and said that a people originating from geographically similar area and with a common history and genealogy would provide the most peaceful state. There are also other similar things written in the Constitution that hint that America was meant to be a white ethnostate, for instance the very well-known passage that says that America is to be a nation for free white men of good character or something or other like that.

That perspective is not entirely wrong it's actually right. It's only wrong when people apply it to the whole world's population. Again it's true, but in the context of European people.

( there's last three sentences are referring to your third to last comment again)

In response to how European people came to inhabit and rule in North America , I do think that Europeans are morally Justified. And I say that only because the world has given us permission to do what we did. And what I mean by that is that since then and even up to today the world knows how they acquired land, and they are aware of who has run and govern America, but despite that reality the hundreds of thousands of Asians and Africans and Latinos and any other people don't let the reality ba moral or ethical barrier to they're coming immigrating here. So what I'm saying is that justifies how the land was acquired. Once the land and territory was acquired the way it was, and after 1965 when we opened up immigration to non-european people, people from all around the world and if and of course increasingly open to today non-european people flock here. They don't care again about how we got it. But to say or argue that all people in the world should get to come here and basically out populate white people because of how white people acquired the territory would mean that it's okay for non-white people to build off of the same events that enabled them to acquire and govern the territory land. So I believe in that regard in propositional logic we would say that the way people think about America today and their reason for coming here and the reason for white people not being able to promote themselves would be a contradiction.

Wasn't the free white men of good character thing taken from a later immigration document?
As well, you seem to be unshakeable in your belief in European unity, but thousands of years of infighting, modern instances of political polarization, and the existence of non Europeans who hold European/Western values in high regard all undermine your valuation of an ethno state. It is easy enough to say "the goal is to stop people from fighting" but it's like people who say "the goal is to eliminate capitalist thinking". There will always be people who revert to tribal thinking, even when you do your best to homogenize an area. Worse still, you would be doing the nation a disservice by homogenizing too far. When everyone sits pretty on or very close to the mean in all respects, you lose diversification within the market.
Also, what political system do you advocate for the end goal state? I've seen a lot of people recommend Fascism, an ideology incompatible with functioning markets, whose success people selectively view from a single economic boom before it wore itself out in a single war. Hardly an admirable or sustainable system