tesla has gotten over 4.5 billion dollars in government subsidies. So we have been paying for rich to have electic cars

but the climate change thing. We need to have adult conversations about it.....

Yeah. I can’t afford a tesla. I argue with some tesla cult members sometimes. They seriously think that tesla currently has a car for the masses.

I agree. Conversations are necessary. I don’t like the censorious behavior of environmental groups. I’m not pure enough for them.

the base price for a model 3 for the masses is about 70K only the highly subsidized model 3 stripped down can get to 30K

no one is pure enough for the eco-extremists

The model 3 base price is ~49k according to their website.

I tryied a few years ago to get with the Sea Shepard people(Whale Wars) too bad one of them caught be eating a hamburger so they knew I wasn't a vegan. (Which I was lying about)

A used tesla costs as much as a new car. There are several evs that are way cheaper.

Lol. That’s hilarious

I think hybrids are a better solution. Fuel efficient....

Plug in hybrids may be better for the short term, but I believe that full evs will get cheaper in the near future. Tesla is an outlier.

I think tesla will go under

they don't make a profit in fact been getting worse

I don’t know what will happen. I hope they make it, but I’m still indifferent.

If you want to troll some tesla cult members let me know. I can show you a place.

naaa they are easy to find

They are everywhere. Lol

I spend more time trolling "socialist"

I read a green energy news website. Sometimes they publish articles that question tesla, not necessarily critical, and the comments section lights up. Lol

If you support nuclear, they go nuts too.

ever notice no one talks about hydro?

When they say renewable, they mean wind and solar. Question how much either can be used and you’re anti science.

No lie

its a cult

It is. There’s one old guy I argue with who is really steeped in it. He practically gets triggered if you say nuclear may be necessary.

They are all far left too. I made a comment one time where I said ‘western medicine’ and this guy had some issue with that because science can be practiced by anyone. 🤮

I argued him down into accepting that western values are superior. Lol

Its hard sometimes to figuare out who is worth debating with. Cause I only like argueing with people that it is possible to change their mind

There are some on this site that are left wing, but might change their minds. The environment is probably the key issue they vote on. (This site also deletes comments questioning climate change)

I gave up argueing with those people I just profit off them now

Profit off environmentalists?

oh yeah

they push some program....I know will fail then I can short the stock

Hahahahaha. That’s so funny.

I’m legitimately worried that environmentalists will become the next sjws.

aren't they already?

Yeah. To an extent, but I’m worried it will get worse.

its just not in the news. Maybe with the IPCC report

It’s already bad, but I’m afraid that they will try a massive power grab in an attempt to control people’s behavior. You already see it in California.

well California will abandon that....They got a few boulders rolling down on them which are going to dominate them soon

Yeah. That’s a good point. I wonder when things in California will come crashing down.

maybe a incident...say a homeless person kills someone and it goes viral.....a slow stock market and their budget goes to shit....the Calipers(Pensions) admits their fucked.....maybe something I hadn't thought of