Hospitals in Cali get caught doing shit like this all the time though

And hospitals go with it because it's money

like ordering x-rays

never doing them, then charging the patient

But they aren't tying them down and forcing it

If they break your water to move things along, you have 4 hours, then they have to c-section or risk infection. If after a certain number of hours you aren't dialating enough they will either send you home or dose your and break your water.

But even if they are.....it's still safer than shitting out a kid in your fucking living room

They won't just let you sit there all day.

Again, still safer than you giving birth at home

https://utswmed.org/medblog/c-section-rates/

Citation needed that it's safer.

I would still go to a fucking hospital

but it definitely is true some providers and hospitals push C-sections

The citation is the drop in infant mortality rates you mongoloid

it doesnt say they push, it says there are more

When, which rates? Was it because of modern sanitation or hospitals?

not going to get autistic about this

Durr hurr cite that's safer....did you really just say that? It's because of medical intervention you idiot

@Catboi with me or him?

ABout c-sections

it's very clearly about the profit for Cali hospitals

it's well known

you can find studies about it all over

then link thjem

you can split hair abous "pushing" or not

That's not the argument though

but they're doing unnecessary surgeries because they make more money

The argument is hospital vs home birth

you legit say theyre pushing and then link an article that simply says there are more done

Why are they doing unnecessary procedures?

are they unnecessary?

"it doesn't say they're unnecessary"

mhmm

Who cares if they are? It's still safer because it's in a hospital rather at home with someone who believes in crystals catching the baby in some fucking newspaper!

once again

you think youre meming me, but it legit is a valid question

I'm not saying it's an argument not to go to a hospital

Exactly

Go to a hospital to have a baby, or don't and be a moron.

you and i are the on same page about that, @DABrilliant is being retarded about that.

I'm saying what they're saying about c-section is true.