I don't want boxes if i buy chink rippoffs from ioffer

Can I flash it and remove the spyware and shit, or is it just in there for good?

ofc

it just depends on the phone

don't buy a leeco x520 and then try to find a rom

Some Hardware has backdoors

because they dont exist

yeah that's what I'm worried about furfag

hardware backdoors are the least of your worries

Well I got a Zuk Z2, so here's hoping.

if youre worried about hardware backdoors then do us a favor and stop using everything

hasn't come in yet

and just go offline

entirely

Someday Windatica.

@gnorc Youre not a target of interesst though. If you really care about your privacy build your own..

or get something old and simple

so they are still "good thing" as long as you are not target of interest

yes that makes all sense now

That's a poor excuse to allow people to spy and collect your info and possibly use it in a criminal manner.

@gnorc Its not an excuse its reality

tfw nignog is burning mix tapes on his laptop next to me

please for gods sake dont shoot down people who are legitimately worried about their security

when it comes to new hardware

this is why we have so much idiots in world already

It's why things are as bad as they are now

maybe this will help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones ?

@gnorc Wanna broadcast the seriousness of the situation using a hacked satelite?

I'm not in the mood for your pettyness.

it's a legitimate concern.

YEs it is

but to answer you gnorc.. its not that widespread some (not named) phones have shipped with it but the source and destination was never published afaik

if its not boxed/does not look original=safe to say its time to think custom roms

Thanks Tervy, looks like this model can be flashed thankfully

It's my first china phone so I'm just wondering what I'm getting into

Soon Open Source Hardware will take over the industry.

just remember to backup the orig.rom

Oh right

incase it goes kabut

yeah its called a microcontroller

and I hope it does Furfag